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Trig Palin is a burden to society and should have been aborted.

So says columnist Nicholas Provenzo, the latest asshat in a series of asshats to make attacks on Sarah Palin using her son Trig.

As everyone in the United States knows, Sarah Palin found out early in her pregnancy that her son would have Down's Syndrome. Rather than aborting Trig, she went through with the pregnancy and now has a five-month-old beautiful baby boy. Even if you are pro-abortion, it's a good story, right? Every woman has the right to "choose", as they like to say. Except you're supposed to choose what liberals tell you to choose.

Provenzo isn't the first to suggest Trig should have been aborted. But he is the latest, and here's some excerpts from his disgusting column:

Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome. Given that Palin's decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)--a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny.

A parent has a moral obligation to provide for his or her children until these children are equipped to provide for themselves. Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others.

So while anti-abortion commentators such as Michael Franc of the National Review sees Down syndrome's victims as "ambassadors of God" who "offer us the opportunity to rise to that greatest of all challenges," for many, that opportunity for challenge is little more than a lifetime of endless burden. In this light, it is completely legitimate for a woman to look at the circumstances of her life and decide that having a child with Down syndrome (or any child for that matter) is not an obligation that she can accept. After all, the choice to have a child is a profoundly selfish choice; that is, a choice that is an expression of the parent's personal desire to create new life.

And most parents seek to create healthy life; in the case of the unborn fetuses shown to have severe developmental disabilities, one study reports that over 90% of these fetuses are aborted prior to birth. But if you notice, the anti-abortion zealots try to attach a dirty little slur to these abortions, labeling them a form of eugenics.


[W]e need the mentally retarded to teach us how to better sacrifice our lives and divest ourselves of our self-interested ways more than they need us to care for them. At Noodlefood, Diana Hsieh condemns such a stand as "the worship of retardation." Given that Palin had complete foreknowledge of her child's severe disability yet nevertheless chose to have it, it is hard not to see her choice as anything less.

Pretty vile stuff.

So, I guess in this guy's mind, we should have no Helen Kellers or Franklin D. Roosevelts; no Lord Byrons, Lord Nelsons, or Beethovens. Is that the argument? That unless you're 100% "healthy" -- and by whose standards is "healthy" defined anyway? -- you don't have a right to live? And what gives this guy the right to decide?

And just so you know, this guy is no small potatoes columnist either. He's written for the Washington Times and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He's been on Bill Maher's show. He isn't some minor-league columnist who no one knows and has never heard of.

Views such as his are despicable and indefensible. I can only imagine how families with disabled children must feel upon reading this. Not only does this man think that it's wrong to proceed with a pregnancy that will bear a child with a disability, but he thinks you are selfish and irresponsible. That child's life is not a blessing to him, but a burden. And not only is his position the correct position, but it's the moral one!

How crazy can you get?

What's so ridiculous is that this isn't his child to be upset over. It was Todd and Sarah Palin's decision to have Trig, and no one else's. To them, Trig's birth was not a burden. So what is he complaining about? I guess you could say that maybe a family that is not as well-off financially as the Palins' might see a disabled child as a burden -- but if they don't see it that way, then what's the problem?!

It's sad that someone can't see anything but hatred and negativity in the beauty of a child with a disability like Down's Syndrome. (And FYI, Nicholas, Down's Syndrome does not automatically mean a lifetime of care and supervision with zero productivity, asshat.)

Just a little personal story: my brother worked at a summer camp for children with disabilities, right up until weeks before he passed away. I can tell you with complete and total honesty that he loved doing it. He got so much joy out of being with those children. Some of them were mildly disabled and completely capable of taking care of themselves. Others were severely disabled, requiring constant 24/7 supervision. My brother worked his way up to the severely disabled kids, and loved every second of it. He never complained or thought it was too hard. And I can tell you he certainly never saw any of "his" kids' lives as a waste or a burden. He loved those children, heart and soul. And when I say loved, I mean it. He truly and sincerely loved them. I don't think he would have been prouder of anything else he had done in his life.

But to this guy, people like my brother, and Sarah Palin, and other parents and friends and caretakers of people with disabilities are idiots who are not only dumb and selfish, but immoral. How sickening.

To close, does all the talk about Trig Palin needing to be aborted simply because he has a disability remind anyone else of Hitler's talk of a perfect Aryan race?

Oh, but wait. I forgot. These guys are the "tolerant" ones.

Hat Tip: Newsbusters


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Comments (35)

Well, nothing new. Sanger,... (Below threshold)

Well, nothing new. Sanger, abortion, planned parenthood, eugenics...Damn that Sarah Palin for not supporting that stuff! A real woman supports that stuff!

Dear Nicholas,Plea... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

Dear Nicholas,

Please do not despair, as I can guarantee Trig will not be a burden to you.
He will be given the love that you have so obviously been deprived of in your sad little life.

But thanks for trying to make these important decisions you know nothing about for families you again, know nothing about.

Son Of The Godfather

PS: Anything I add in this section will be disemvoweled by the Wizbang moderators, so let's just leave it at: "Fck y".

The left compares Bush to H... (Below threshold)

The left compares Bush to Hitler but they are the ones who condone euthanazia. The Left are the ones who would mirror Hitler's methodology of dealing with the unfortunate, the lesser lights of his society - euthanazia. It has been 63 years since the Nazi regime was crushed, but the Left advocates one of their fine attributes.

So is he saying that once c... (Below threshold)
Mike M.:

So is he saying that once children become a burden to parents because they can no longer support them (and they can't support themselves), they have a moral obligation to kill them?

Okay, I've known the left w... (Below threshold)

Okay, I've known the left was unhinged for a while - but it seems like the hinge ain't just broke, but they're pushing as hard as they can to make sure there's no chance of it EVER getting back together again.

Do they REALLY think such arguements are persuasive? Is their desire to get us to come to their way of thinking, or is it just to scream at the top of their lungs because they don't like something?

I'm confused, and more than a bit worried, at the sheer anger and rage that's being exhibited by the left. That's the sort of stuff extremists use to justify their actions - and it sadly wouldn't surprise me much to find some day a leftist screams "For Mother Gaia!" and blows himself up in a mall or something...

SotG, you don't get off tha... (Below threshold)

SotG, you don't get off that easily. The Disemvoweler 2000 (TM) does not recognize the rule; "and sometimes Y". It doesn't have the AI to make that determination. Therefore, your parting remark would simply be, "Fck."

Somebody should file me und... (Below threshold)

Somebody should file me under "asshats", because I am such a naive idiot that I had NO idea anyone could be so filled with ignorance and hatred. Thank you, Cassy, for pointing out a handful of famous folks who made a huge difference in shaping our history - folks with disabilities.

Has anyone seen "Radio"? I can watch that movie 78 more times, and I'll keep right on crying through it.

I'm vertically challenged and I'm blind as a bat without my glasses. Anyone want to put me on an ice floe and send me packing?

When I was about 22, I took a job at a home for the elderly - specifically those who were deaf and/or blind. Two of the men who resided there, both of them blind and deaf since birth, had "The Miracle Workshop" in the basement, where they did the most gorgeous chair chaning for folks in the area that you ever did see. They earned their keep, Provenzo you DICKHEAD. Or should I say dckhd.

DANG I'm madder than a wet hen about this, so I'd better go hug my kids and thank GOD I had the good sense not to abort my beautiful son, even though the doctors begged me to during the entire pregnancy. You see, I had a "window" in my uterus and they were just sure I'd rupture and leave four kids without a mom. They called me selfish. I'm pretty sure Provenzo called all parents "selfish" for having kids, so I guess he's never spent 14 straight years changing diapers and cleaning up puke.

g fck rslf prvnz

LOL @ Oyster ;)... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

LOL @ Oyster ;)

Stephen Hawking comes to mi... (Below threshold)

Stephen Hawking comes to mind. His Wiki entry begins:

Stephen William Hawking, CH, CBE, FRS, FRSA (born 8 January 1942) is a British theoretical physicist. Hawking is the Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at the University of Cambridge, and a Fellow of Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge. He is known for his contributions to the fields of cosmology and quantum gravity, especially in the context of black holes, and his popular works in which he discusses his own theories and cosmology in general. These include the runaway popular science bestseller A Brief History of Time, which stayed on the British Sunday Times bestseller list for a record-breaking 237 weeks.[1]

His key scientific works to date have included providing, with Roger Penrose, theorems regarding singularities in the framework of general relativity, and the theoretical prediction that black holes should emit radiation, which is today known as Hawking radiation, or sometimes as Bekenstein-Hawking radiation.[2] His scientific career spans over 40 years and his books and public appearances have made him an academic celebrity and world-renowned theoretical physicist. He is an Honorary Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts[3] and a lifetime member of the Pontifical Academy of Science.[4] Hawking is disabled by amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). The illness has progressed over the years and he is now almost completely paralyzed.

As I've said elsewhere on W... (Below threshold)

As I've said elsewhere on Wizbang, my daughter has velo-cardio-facial syndrome (the 2nd-most common genetic disorder after Down syndrome) and my brother has severe autism. I posted my thoughts on Provenzo's article here.

I did not see Cassy's piece before I posted mine, but I see we had similar titles and conclusions.

Gee, the same argument coul... (Below threshold)

Gee, the same argument could be made for Steven Hawking, at least at an earlier age.

"After all, the choice t... (Below threshold)

"After all, the choice to have a child is a profoundly selfish choice;..."

Yeah, too bad his parents were so selfish.

What a depraved man this is.

This oerson ma... (Below threshold)

This oerson makes a compelling case for genetic manipulation.

Crap, Hard to type when ... (Below threshold)

Crap, Hard to type when your that mad. Make that person, loosely speaking.

As bad as this guy is...</p... (Below threshold)

As bad as this guy is...

...this guy may even be worse.

Wow, I better go tell my fr... (Below threshold)

Wow, I better go tell my friend whose son has Down's Syndrome (and is successfully mainstreamed at the local elementary school) that she is selfish because this ssht (hey, look what other word it looks like when you take the two "a"s out!) decided that only fetuses who pass his chromosome litmus test should be allowed to live. What does this guy propose for children who are born with cerebral palsy or other conditions that can't be predicted before birth?

You've got to love "liberal" thinking with its narrow rules about who is valued and who is not.

Wait... isn't this guy an e... (Below threshold)

Wait... isn't this guy an extreme BIG L Libertarian instead of communist type lefty?

That doesn't make his view any more palatable (even less so IMHO) but lets not smear the leftists when they don't deserve it.

It's not like they don't give us ample opportunity.

So, if we subscribe to Mr. ... (Below threshold)

So, if we subscribe to Mr. Povenzo's theory, if a person goes on welfare, it's really their parent's responsibility to support them, not mine?
I'm sure that's what he's saying, right?

The media scrutiny of the P... (Below threshold)

The media scrutiny of the Palins' fiancials showed they already had savings for each of their other children; they've got a few years to set something up for Trig (if they haven't already) and I'm sure they will.

Not to mention he has four siblings and a large extended family. Trig will not be a ward of the state at any point in his life.

Meanwhile, there's all sorts of able-bodied people in subsidized housing collecting free food and medical care (...and reproducing freely) on the taxpayers' dime. Quite the contrast.

It is interesting to read t... (Below threshold)

It is interesting to read this post. Recently only I expressed a similar opinion (http://minekey.com/theopinion/1122495 - inspired by Sarah Palin's story) and was beaten down in this forum here.... it is interesting to see what people say. I have changed my stand now I guess...

People are shocked by this?... (Below threshold)

People are shocked by this? Eugenics has long been a goal of the lying, deceitful leftist that occupy the Democratic party. Anyone recall Planned Parenthood advocating abortions of people of color?

A party that front a charismatic "reformer" who is going to restore "pride: in America and advocates the killing of those deemed gentically inferior.....hmmm. Socialist too.

I say again, I find liberals to be the most racist, hateful, and despicable people on this planet.

I'm so confused. Having a b... (Below threshold)

I'm so confused. Having a baby is selfish, right lefties?

And having a Down syndrome baby is even more selfish.

But, having sex whenever, wherever and with whoever (and "by extension", advocating that behavior for everyone else -including minors), is somehow not selfish ?

Right, and people who believe in Jesus are nuts, gotcha.

The Left believes in Cho... (Below threshold)

The Left believes in Choice only when you choose Abortion. Consider any other choice and you are doing nothing but adding just one more burden to society.

Does that just about get it?

Horatio Nelson was crippled... (Below threshold)

Horatio Nelson was crippled from war wounds and FDR got polio as a child. Steven Hawking has ALS. None of these people have congenital disabilities, so you can't really make a true comparison.

Before anyone jumps on me, I agree with your thesis Cassy, but wanted to point out some comparison flaws....that is all.

I don't agree with much of ... (Below threshold)

I don't agree with much of what he says, but it baffles me that people assume that someone writing for the "Center for the Advancement of Capitalism" is a liberal. Did anyone even bother to follow the link?

Provenzo writes "Because a ... (Below threshold)
Penny Green:

Provenzo writes "Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others."

Somebody introduce this ignorant man to Karen Gaffney please (www.karengaffneyfoundation.com), I'd like her to tell him about her life. I've had the priviledge of meeting Karen on several occasions, have nothing but admiration for her and all she has achieved in life and is striving for for people with disabilities.

I would call her a friend - now wouldn't that choke him, thinking of someone with DS in that way.

MikeW, I believe you are co... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

MikeW, I believe you are correct:

Question: Sometimes your positions make you sound like you are conservatives, while other times they make you sound like you are liberals. Which side are you on?

Answer: Neither. Like millions of readers across the globe, we found inspiration in Ayn Rand's uncompromising vision of free and unshackled minds. Accordingly, we reject the current intellectual status quo and we are neither conservative, liberal, nor anywhere else in-between.

I freely admit I jumped to the conclusion that this was purely a liberal author, when it is obviously some strange and different creature.

Still, I wouldn't care if it was the opinion of a liberal or a conservative: the man's a ttl dchbg.

I saw a person with Down Sy... (Below threshold)

I saw a person with Down Syndrome today. I was shopping with a friend in a supermarket when I rounded a corner and met her eyes. She smiled a mature and confident smile as our eyes locked for a brief moment.

I will not speak or write this author's name, but he needs to get out more.

"I freely admit I jumped to... (Below threshold)

"I freely admit I jumped to the conclusion that this was purely a liberal author, when it is obviously some strange and different creature.

Still, I wouldn't care if it was the opinion of a liberal or a conservative: the man's a ttl dchbg."

Yeah, can't disagree with that. As a pro-choice liberal, I tend to take the attitude that just like it wouldn't be my place to judge Palin if she had chosen to get an abortion, it's also not my place to judge her for choosing not to, something that the more strident elements of the left tend to forget. I admire Palin (and anyone else for that matter with a disabled kid) for having the courage to face it head on. I can't stand her politics, mind you, but that's a totally separate matter.

Imagine if Rush Limbaugh or... (Below threshold)
Maggie Mama:

Imagine if Rush Limbaugh or other conservative suggested that all mothers with HIV have their babies aborted.

Better yet, let's sterilize... (Below threshold)
Maggie Mama:

Better yet, let's sterilized all mothers with HIV.

I sincerely hope that secur... (Below threshold)

I sincerely hope that security is watching out for the Palin children, especially helpless little Baby Trig. It would be just like someone with this mindset or some Code Pinker to try and off the little ones. Such people really are a menace to society and would feel no more remorse about hurting a born child than they would an unborn one.

Why doesn't the columnist t... (Below threshold)

Why doesn't the columnist take it to the next logical step?
Kill people that he deems unfit after they are born.
And why stop with babies if a person becomes a burden on society in their adult life, kill them too.
He could set minimum IQ and physical tests.
If a person has an IQ lower than 75 they get turned into useful fertilizer.
If they can't do five push ups and run a mile or they are blind or deaf, whack 'em.

We can't have all these "burdens" running around now can we?

Why do people automatically... (Below threshold)

Why do people automatically assume that this is how everyone thinks on the so-called "left"? Are all conservatives lumped together as having exactly the same ideas? I guess we're all just sheep one way or the other.

I'm a liberal. I must want to kill babies and create an uber-race.

Or wait, I'm a conservative, I hypocritically approve of the death penalty while stating that all life is precious.

Kip the man who criminals h... (Below threshold)

Kip the man who criminals have no problem with now go back to KOS you scumball






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