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Not-So-Strange Bedfellows: DNC & The Chinese Communist Party

In the China Brief from the Jamestown Foundation you may learn something today to be filed under Things that make you go 'Hmmm....'

China, as an emerging power, is no exception in keenly following the Democratic and Republican tickets for the 2008 American presidential election. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) even sent Ma Hui, director for the Americas at the CCP Central Committee's International Department, to observe the Democratic National Convention (DNC) at the invitation of the National Democratic Institute (NDI), marking the first time that the CCP participated in an American political party convention (Wen Wei Po, August 30).

You can't make this stuff up.

I'm sure it was simply a cultural exchange, hoping that the Chinese Communist Party can take back to the mainland the message of 'Change' in hopes of a more open democratic system of Chinese governance.

"Visions of sugar plums, monks, a temple and money danced in their heads."

Just sayin'....

UPDATE: As reader mantis alertly notes, fear not as both parties had the CCP as invited guests. (And I deserved his snarky retort fully. Nothing like involving the Chinese Communist Party in presidential party conventions to instill faith and confidence in either, whichever party you belong to.)

Ma Hui, director of the China Association for International Understanding (CAFIU), following his attendance and observation of the 2008 U.S. Democratic and Republican National Conventions, remarked on September 4th that "China is not the focus of this year's U.S. presidential election."

On the night of September 4th, McCain made the "grand finale show" by delivering a speech, accepting the Republican presidential nomination. However, in his 4,000-word speech, not a single word was uttered about China, nor anything on the trade deficit, nor the RMB exchange rate.

In late August at the Democratic National Convention, the Democratic Party's key figures, including Obama himself, rarely mentioned China-focused topics in their speeches.

In Denver and St. Paul, both the Democrats and the Republicans displayed special caution when requested to comment on issues that involve China. Even their respective foreign policy advisers, when asked by a reporter (the writer herself) of their China policy, only offered a few words of comment.

Oh happy days. Just sayin'...


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Ma attended <a href="http:/... (Below threshold)

Ma attended the RNC too:

Ma Hui, director of the China Association for International Understanding (CAFIU), following his attendance and observation of the 2008 U.S. Democratic and Republican National Conventions, remarked on September 4th that "China is not the focus of this year's U.S. presidential election."

Hmmmmm. Perhaps it was simply a cultural exchange, hoping that the Chinese Communist Party can take back to the mainland the message of 'Get off my lawn you rotten kids!' in hopes of a more open curmudgeonly system of Chinese governance.

Well, that settled that.</p... (Below threshold)

Well, that settled that.

Within their one party syst... (Below threshold)

Within their one party system representatives to the Communist Party have spent more time listening to local concerns than ever before in recent times. There may not be free elections or absolute freedom of speech as of yet, but China's huge world trade are making China more like the U.S. everyday, with things at least evolving in a better direction than Russia where things are rolling backwards. The Chinese newspaper Xinhua is worth a good look online and certainly more positive than the Russian Voice Of Russia.

China also has a huge investment in the U.S. by holding so many bonds, and needs to keep a good eye on their debtor nation here as well.

but China's huge world t... (Below threshold)

but China's huge world trade are making China more like the U.S. everyday,

Have you actually been there? Because your words sound idiotic to someone who spends a fair amount of time there (and not just in Beijing and Shanghai).

But, okay, Hooson, I'll bite. In what ways are the PRC becoming like the U.S.?

Careful Steve, it really hi... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Careful Steve, it really hits a nerve when anyone brings up the remarkable similarities between modern American Democrats and Communists.

And I knew we could count on Hooson to vainly attempt to defend his ideological comrades in the Chinese government.

Folks, this one probably is... (Below threshold)
Edward Sisson Author Profile Page:

Folks, this one probably isn't really a major issue. The National Democratic Institute has a Republican counterpart, the International Republican Institute, and both (along with two other nonprofits, a labor-oriented one and a corporate-oriented one) are "core grantees" of the umbrella National Endowment for Democracy in Washington, set up in the early 1980s as a bipartisan effort by Reagan and top Democrats in Congress. All four groups conduct pro-democracy education and training efforts in countries all over the globe, including in China. Bringing Chinese observers to our political conventions is a legitimate part of educating about the American democratic process. (FYI, I was for several years pro bono legal counsel to the National Endowment for Democracy, which is bipartisan).

Ah... Nice job, mantis. As... (Below threshold)
Steve Schippert:

Ah... Nice job, mantis. As I wrote that, I was wondering how far behind the Republicans would be. Seems a matter of days. I thought it would be years.

Shiver me timbers....

Clay, unlike the Chairman M... (Below threshold)

Clay, unlike the Chairman Mao years, the Chinese dress more Western, look more Western, listen to more Western music and watch more Western movies. But it is probably the Internet and trade that has opened this nation up the most to many Western ideals.

P. Bunyan, check out Xinhua on the Internet and see what you think about China for yourself. I'd certainly prefer a democracy myself, but what they have in China is at least moving in the right direction of social progress compared to Putin's Russia.

the Chinese dress more W... (Below threshold)

the Chinese dress more Western, look more Western, listen to more Western music and watch more Western movies.

No. You're kidding, right? That's what "becoming more like the U.S." looks like? What the hell?!?!

Talk to me about freedom. Tell me more about their increased freedom of speech. Tell me what the dissenters have been allowed to say that equates to such freedom. Tell me all about their religious freedom. Tell me how the workers have been treated so much better than the glorious days of the still venerated Chairman Mao. Tell me about the workers' improved quality of life beyond the bounds of Shanghai and Beijing.

Do you make this stuff up as you type? Tell me more than the movies they watch or the clothes that they wear. Or shut your phony, pompous ass.

Are you actually comparing ... (Below threshold)

Are you actually comparing the United
States to China, Hoosan?

I don't agree with P... (Below threshold)

I don't agree with Paul Hooson very often, if previously at all. And certainly I find myself asking if mantis will every "find" my several posts to him on freedom of speech.

Yet I don't take exception to either of the posts they have made about China. And YES Clay, I have been to the PRC many, many times on business and not just in Bejing or Shanghai. I actually SOLD stuff to China for a number of years.

The PRC is a lot like the US before and after the year 1900 in many ways, complete with scandals, excesses and a booming economy on the back of trade and internal consumption. In practical terms, it is much like the one party US states that were common back then. The good old boys ran things and that was that, like the good old boys run things now in China, except even more so.

There are also sharp divisions between winners and losers in China, and from our own history, we can look forward to major confrontations within that country in the future as things sort themselves out. They don't have much of a social safety net to drain capital away from job creation and industrial expansion. This is not to say they do everything right, they don't.

We can also look forward to more and more world competition with China as they seek to capture what they believe to be their share of the minerals and oil they need to continue to fuel their rising prosperity.

A pox on both their houses.... (Below threshold)

A pox on both their houses.

I'm sorry. McCain is a 1980's pro-corporate Democrat. And it seems like a good portion of the Republicans in Congress and especially the Republican Leadership are too.

This next 4 years will be hell. Shoot me. Just Shoot me.

China is at least moving... (Below threshold)

China is at least moving in the right direction of social progress

But, how? Is social progress just the ability to consume Western products? Think, Hooson. What social progress can you point to? Or can you? Will you fall into the same trap as Obama and point to China's much-admired infrastructure -- based on those TV pics during the Olympics.

Larry, I'll be the first to... (Below threshold)

Larry, I'll be the first to agree with you about many flawed conditions which still exist in China. The government recently had to arrest some corrupt businessmen who made thousands of infants and small children sick from contaminated milk products. But in many other ways, many other products made in China are a good value for the money and perfectly safe such as TVs, VCRs, Computers, motorcycles, etc.

I bought a high end Chinese produced Benelli Andretti X Italian motorbike last month to add to the other vehicles I own, and it's a super high quality product all the way around and worth maybe a thousand or two more than what I paid for it. For quality and performance this is like the Lexus of some bikes, and is a wonderful high end product well worth owning. The quality control is superb and as good as a high end automobile in every regard. Not everything from China is cheap, awful or unsafe. Many products from China are actually real good. Some Benelli motorcycles made in China easily exceed 0-100mph in far less than six seconds. That's great workmanship and quality. How many American automobiles can match this?

Clay, as we both know, infr... (Below threshold)

Clay, as we both know, infrastructure in China lags behind the US by leaps and bounds. But they ARE building it. And they bring on line several electrical generating plants - some say two a week. I need to do some research to see how much megawattage as opposed to physical plant. Mostly they are coal powered.

Considering that is their most abundant natural resource, it makes sense for them, but does contribute to pollution, which has to be seen to be believed.

Paul, you probably wouldn't like it much over there. They have this deal that you have to work to eat. And about 50% of their wages go toward food. The creation of excellent products is most often done with western or Japanese (or Taiwan) management on the back of local contribution of land and sometimes building. The wage structure is different in that most often, a job comes with a place to sleep and I don't mean an apartment. It generally takes two or three Chinese to do a job we would do with one person. As the Chinese learn from their partners, they then start businesses more or less successful and make it without outside influence.

Their idea of a War on Poverty is to figure out how to get everyone a job, while keeping most folks down on the farm to produce food. Their historic friendship with the Democratic Party is practical and based on influencing policy makers for trade and keeping out of their hair as they move around the world doing their thing. They not only don't much care for most of the key Democratic Party selling points, they would shoot anyone who advanced them in China and bill the relatives for the bullet.

In China, again, IN CHINA, I have heard those leaders in the US of the Democratic Party described as "willing dupes," loosely translated and cleaned up for my consumption.

BTW Paul, it wasn't ... (Below threshold)

BTW Paul, it wasn't corrupt "Businessmen" who were arrested, it was party types and some dumb jerks who didn't know that melamine was poison, mostly farmers trying to get their milk to pass.

Ignorance is the big deal in China.

Larry,Hooson makes h... (Below threshold)

Hooson makes his money off the backs of those Chinese chattel. Real reform there is not in his interest.






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