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I Said, Hey Joe, Where You Goin' With That Dumb In Your Hand?

Well, tonight's the big night, the night we've all been waiting for. The most-anticipated vice-presidential debate in history, with Joe Biden taking on Sarah Palin. And with all the attention being put on Ms. Palin ever since John McCain chose her as his running mate, I felt a little bad for old Joe. He deserves a bit of the spotlight, too, so I figured I'd remind folks just what Joe will be bringing to the match.

And just to be fair, I'm going to limit myself to just things he's said in the current campaign season.

The only problem is, I don't know where to begin.

Let's start off lightly. Joe thinks that one of the problems we have is that the government doesn't have enough money. To solve that, he says that it's not only our patriotic, but religious duty to pay higher taxes.

And we can trust Joe on religious matters. He's a devout Catholic, and an expert on that church's teachings. Just ask him. Especially when it comes to the Church's position on abortion.

Speaking of the Bible, Joe seems to think that he just might have divine powers. At a campaign rally in Missouri, he tried to heal a paralyzed state senator with the power of his voice. "Chuck Graham, state senator, is here. Chuck, stand up! Chuck, let 'em see ya! Oh, God love ya, what am I talking about? I'll tell you what, you're making everybody else stand up, pal. Thank you very, very much. I tell you what, stand up for Chuck! Thank you, pal."

It seems that Democrats in wheelchairs just bring out the worst in Joe. When the current economic crisis started coming to a head, he blasted the president's response, noting that when the stock market crashed in 1929, President Roosevelt went on TV to reassure the nation.

Apparently Senator Biden was absent from school on the day they covered the facts that 1) President Roosevelt was still Governor Roosevelt in 1929, and would not be elected until 1932; and 2) there wasn't a heck of a lot of TV in 1929. Indeed, Roosevelt was most famous for his "fireside chats" on the radio.

Biden is also a bit out of step with other prominent Democrats of today as well. He made a point of saying that he thought an ad attacking John McCain as technologically impaired was "terrible." More specifically, "I thought that was terrible, by the way. I didn't know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we'd have never done it."

I guess Biden was just trying to balance things out with his running mate. Back when they were rivals, Biden praised Obama: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy ... I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Itt isn't just articulate, bright, clean African-Americans that Biden inappropriately praises. He also thinks the world of Indian-Americans (the ones from India, not Native Americans). "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent." With that, he just sewed up the vote of Apu and every Kwiki-Mart franchisee.

You can trust Biden on India. He not only has a lot of constituents from there, he's been in that area numerous times. In fact, he had a brush with death practically next door, in Afghanistan. "If you want to know where Al Qaeda lives, you want to know where Bin Laden is, come back to Afghanistan with me," Biden said. "Come back to the area where my helicopter was forced down, with a three-star general and three senators at 10,500 feet in the middle of those mountains. I can tell you where they are."

Biden's helicopter was caught in a snowstorm, and the pilot chose to land for a while to wait the storm out.

Biden also caused a flurry of controversy when he thought it would be a good idea to praise Hillary Clinton. There's nothing wrong with that, but as usual, his mouth ran away from him. "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice-president of the United States of America. Let's get that straight.She's a truly close personal friend...quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me. But she's first rate, I mean that sincerely, she's first rate."

I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point -- and I've only scratched the surface.

The really disturbing thing, though, is that these are not the most dangerous things to come out of Joe Biden's mouth. The fun Biden gaffes are great for laughs, but that's because they jump out at us as so absurd.

No, the really disturbing Bidenisms are the ones that sneak under the radar, the ones that don't leap out as ludicrous -- but only after you have a little time to look at the details of what he says.

I discussed this a while ago, with a principle I called "The Three B's Of Joe Biden." When Biden is challenged, he has a three-step response that he unloads to silence his critics: he Bullies, he Blusters, and he Bullshits. And it tends to work -- people are put back by his bullying and blustering, and don't have the presence or the facts to expose his bullshit.

During the first McCain-Obama debate, the McCain people were seriously on their game. They noted that Obama kept saying "I agree with John," and put out an ad almost before the debate was over highlighting those statements..

Here's hoping that the McCain camp has a legion of fact-checkers at their keyboards ready to go over every wild claim Biden makes tonight, because he's pretty much guaranteed to toss of at least one major line of bullshit.

Hey, that could actually be a fun contest -- how many howlers will Biden spout before the debate ends? How many things will he simply make up to make some point?

I'm gonna give Joe some credit. I'll say two. I'm sure his handlers are pounding him to not do any, but I have faith that he'll overcome them.

(Yes, I am recycling an earlier title. It was such a good one, I couldn't resist.)


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Comments (28)

I suspect he'll be wishing ... (Below threshold)

I suspect he'll be wishing he was "Way down to Mexico way" if he tries his 3B approach with Mz Sarah because she strikes me as someone that will not put up with his antics.

Any time he starts into a long explanation his mind wanders into weird places and thoughts he shouldn't say pop out. I suspect his handlers have been pounding it into him to keep his responses very limited to avoid foot-in-mouth issues.

Joe is still in "running-fo... (Below threshold)

Joe is still in "running-for-President-mode"; not Vice President. He seems to have a proclivity for forgetting that and going against what his prospective boss says as if he was setting policy himself. We may get treated to more of that if Gwen makes him feel too comfortable.

This debate will not make more people warm up to Palin no matter what she says. Even if Palin does well, it will not make a wit of difference to many. Joe has to screw it up. Unless Joe says something so egregious that can't be ignored, this debate won't change anyone's mind.

Joe Biden is debatin... (Below threshold)
dr lava:

Joe Biden is debating someone tonight that believes in the absolute truth and infallability of the bible. That means Sarah Palin does not believe in evolution and she believes in satan.

Those two things alone indicate some mental problems and should scare the "bejesus' out of thinking people. But the GOP has lowered the bar so low with Bush that people like Palin are enthusiastic choices of what used to be the proud conservative [Goldwater] Republican Party.

lava, you can't even keep y... (Below threshold)

lava, you can't even keep your own ideology straight. How the hell can you be considered an expert on the beliefs of someone you despise?

There is no incompatibility between Christianity and evolution, just among those who are absolute Biblical literalists, and there's about one of those for every hundred the loony left thinks there is -- if that many.

Besides, I didn't mention Palin at all after the first sentence. Why can't you stick up for your guy?

Oh, yeah, because your guy is, if anything, worse than I portrayed him.

Good grief, you're worse than worthless.


Palin will be in trouble if... (Below threshold)

Palin will be in trouble if she gets into this mode:

Couric: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

Palin: Well, let's see. There's, of course in the great history of America there have been rulings, that's never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ...

Couric: Can you think of any?

Palin: Well, I could think of ... any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But, you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a vice president, if I'm so privileged to serve, wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.

She's like the unprepared student who doesn't know the answer and tries to get by with repeatedly rephrasing the question without actually giving an answer. We've dubbed that "Filling the bluebook".

Joe Biden is toast. He cla... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Joe Biden is toast. He claims the only material he's been studying to prepare for the debates is the National Enquirer.

Wow, it seems that NOBODY w... (Below threshold)

Wow, it seems that NOBODY wants to stick up for Biden, but rather talk about Palin.

(sniff, sniff) That smell... so familiar... oh, yes, that remarkable scent called "desperation."

As Jim Steinman wrote:
"There's desperation in the air/it leaves a stain on all your clothes and no detergent gets it out."

Biden makes Dan Quayle look like a frigging rocket scientist, but NOBODY wants to talk about that.


Hmmmm...the Joe Biden drink... (Below threshold)

Hmmmm...the Joe Biden drinking game? I'm sure the rules are pretty obvious...better stock up.

OK folks, time to develop a... (Below threshold)

OK folks, time to develop a play list for this debate. I drove to work listening to the local station's version, starting with Invisible Touch, then Bad Bad GIrlfriend.

Time for us to counter this propaganda. Any suggestions?


epador, I'd suggest startin... (Below threshold)

epador, I'd suggest starting off by adapting a Hank Williams Jr. song:

"A Country Girl Can Survive."

Hmm... that just might be a good project...

"We're from Wasilla, Alaska and South Alabam;
And little towns all around this land
And we can skin a moose, we can run a trout line
And a country girl can survive
Country folks can survive."

Now I just gotta work in a flute and a plane...


Hey, that could actually... (Below threshold)
Boyd Author Profile Page:

Hey, that could actually be a fun contest -- how many howlers will Biden spout before the debate ends? How many things will he simply make up to make some point?

We could make it a drinking game, but we'd all be completely sloshed after Joe's third response.

Good start. I gotta go to ... (Below threshold)

Good start. I gotta go to work, will have to check up on this thread much later tonight.

If Sarah Palin decides to b... (Below threshold)

If Sarah Palin decides to be her own authentic self - and Joe Biden (unfortunately) decides to do likewise - he loses big time!

Dennis Miller suggested last night that she just pepper spray him at the beginning of the debate and then ask Gwen Ifil for her autograph on copies of Gwen's new book in praise of Obama. I'm not altogether sure he was joking!

Let's not pick on lava folks. Just imagine what it must be like waking up every morning with no improvement in one's mental condition! I mean really, let's have some compassion for the poor deluded dope!

I know Joe Biden. He is an ... (Below threshold)

I know Joe Biden. He is an extremely honest, intelligent and articulate man. His knowledge on foreign affairs is equal to anyone you will find. He knows who he is and he knows his faults. His "gaffs" are blown out of proportion and used to divert attention away from his opponents. This will all show very clearly during tonight's debate.

Yes, Coinman, he never said... (Below threshold)
Boyd Author Profile Page:

Yes, Coinman, he never said any of those stupid statements we've heard spilling from his own lips.

After all, who ya gonna believe, Coinman or your lyin' ears?

Coinman, your narrow focus ... (Below threshold)

Coinman, your narrow focus on only Biden's gaffes being taken out of proportion says it all about you. You are in the tank.

I think Palin should do what Dennis Miller said: Spray pepper spray in Biden's face and tell Ifil he grabbed her under the table.

Also, she should say, "Ifil, I know you support Barry and actually will be making money off him should he win, but I think you should moderate." That will set the tone.

On Biden, he is off the top full of himself almost as much as Durbin. He trys to be intellectual but fails as his mouth goes on. I said at the beginning, when Barry picked him, that Biden will sink himself. He CANNOT help it. It has to be the worst VP pick in history. ww

Yes, pity poor Joe Biden, r... (Below threshold)

Yes, pity poor Joe Biden, ridiculed up and down the MSM for his gaffes the way Gov. Palin has been for the highly edited to the point of derangement comments she appeared to give to Charlie Gibson. Oh wait...

If more than 1% of the population have seen any of the several paragraphs worth of context before and after her 'can see Russia from Alaska' comment I would be absolutely flabbergasted. But, yeah, it's poor Joe that can't get a fair shake with the public.

In fact many such things ar... (Below threshold)

In fact many such things are taken out of context, misreported, and sometimes simply made up. Sure he has misspoke, they all have. The Joe Biden I know and who is known throughout the world is not the person many are trying to portray. This political smoke screen will be blown away tonight!

Debate question #1... (Below threshold)

Debate question #1

"Mayor Palin, is it true after shooting a moose cow with your 300 Winchester (with three of your small children on your back) you'd smear it's blood on your face and clothes (and the kid's too), howl to the moon, and then use the winchester to kill every small animal in sight while your husband ran down the moose calf on his snowmobile, the tracks tearing it's little limbs apart while it screamed horribly?"

"Vice Precident Biden, how tough was it to patriotically serve the american people as a single parent?"

I'm with Coinman.J... (Below threshold)

I'm with Coinman.

Joe Biden ought to sue Joe Biden for defamation and making him look like such a bozo.


Coinman, we know Joe Biden ... (Below threshold)

Coinman, we know Joe Biden also. During the Clearance Thomas hearings, he made a big ass out of himself. Even his collegues and friends say Biden cannot ask a question, he gets lost in his own rhetoric. He is a hero in his own mind. The fact is, Biden is what is wrong with D.C. ww

Wow, it seems that NOBO... (Below threshold)

Wow, it seems that NOBODY wants to stick up for Biden, but rather talk about Palin.

(sniff, sniff) That smell... so familiar... oh, yes, that remarkable scent called "desperation."

Yes, Jay tea we are desperate, up by 8-11 points with a 30 year veteran of the senate against miss teen usa; I mean, who wouldn't feel desperate?

I just hope one of the debate questions has to do with maps.

Well coinman (funny, given ... (Below threshold)

Well coinman (funny, given Joe's story of coins thrown at people's feet), you have all of Jay Tea's citations above. If they are so easy to disprove, pick any 3 and have at it.
Go ape.

Woof, woof, roll over, Sara... (Below threshold)

Woof, woof, roll over, Sarah! Good Girl! See how well you did? So, no more thinking on your own anymore, okay?

What amazes me is that a de... (Below threshold)

What amazes me is that a debate for the second most powerful position in this land is reduced to whether a person can exceed expectations that they are not a complete idiot. This nation is in serious trouble and we're trying to decide if a V.P. can answer a question coherently?

Hear, hear, Gary!... (Below threshold)

Hear, hear, Gary!

This "Dink" Lost me on his ... (Below threshold)
Robert Hamblin:

This "Dink" Lost me on his first statement, when he "MIS-STATED/LIED" about what Joe Biden really said. I decided right then and there, I'd be wasting my time going any further.

Here's the lie:

"The only problem is, I don't know where to begin. (waste of words right there, as it is clear he has no trouble starting off "lightly".

(lightly? or a lie?)

Let's start off lightly. (Redundant) Joe thinks that one of the problems we have is that the government doesn't have enough money. (UH...DUH! Hello? Anybody Home? WE DON'T) To solve that, he says that it's not only our patriotic, but religious duty to pay higher taxes."

First off, the idiot has short term memory lapse, as it was clear during the debate he was for taxing those who were in a higher income/tax bracket. Not Middle Income. I'm sick and tired of people twisting words around.

No integrity....Hey Idiot, Where you going with your head up your Butt.

Biden was clearly the winner! And although Palen was coached heavily, she still acted like a giddy school girl who just won a prize by cheating (facial gestures looked at times like she just got even, or got caught with her panties down). She seems to get off by proving the male species wrong....Feminist Mentality. Says she's a "NORMAL MOM"? Normal Moms stay home and use their "Maternal Instinct" to nurture their children. Go Figure, Mammary's to feed child? womb to have child? And they clearly don't need a double income, like the rest of us "NORMAL FAMILIES" ...Believe me, I could go on, and on.......

btw. Who was the other moron who gave Palen all the kudos...ED ROLLINS? This guy is the epitome of "DUMBER THAN A BOX OF ROCKS" Watching him for years on Lou Dobbs, and the only thing he laughs at is his own stupid jokes. Rarely does he have anything intelligent to say, and if he does, it's in agreement with "LOU DOBBS" (butt sucker). Just like the idiot who wrote this.

Palen? IMO, America's LAUGHING STOCK! Are we Americans that ignorant and uneducated? Hillary Blows her away (although she is known for lying), and OBAMA/BIDEN Make her and McBlame look like two bumbling idiots. The Answer to who best fits the roll of LEADERSHIP (INTEGRITY/More concern for others than self), is BARRACK OBAMA and JOE (COOL) BIDEN.

The answer is "NO" WE AS TAX PAYERS CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO PAY FOR A WAR THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE! We not only lost those in the twin towers, but over 5 years of going nowhere fast. WTF? BUSH/CHAINEY SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH TREASON! Stike that, sent to a mental institution for the CRIMINALLY INSANE!!! Between them, Henry Paulson, and Ben Bernanke their bleeding us DRY! And don't tell me they "ALL" don't play "WALL ST." "The Blind Leading the Blind, We All Fall Into the Pit"...and were heading there fast!!!

END THIS WAR NOW! Young Kids (barely adults) who've never really experienced life are being severely INJURED and are DYING IN VAIN!

Robert Hamblin

Hamblin,Where do you... (Below threshold)

Where do you score your hash? Looks potent






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