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National Anthem Cut From Obama Rally: What It Means

Much has been made about 17-year-old Zach Bencal, who was scrubbed from Obama's rally yesterday. But it's not about the young man, dare I say, but the fact that there was no room for the National Anthem at Obama's rally in New Hampshire.

No Obama rally is complete without a few celebrity sightings.

Actor Justin Long, co-star of "Live Free or Die Hard" and the popular "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC" commercials was spotted by the middle schoolers and posed for photos. Actor John de Lance, better known as "Q" from "Star Trek: The Next Generation," was also present.

Not present, or at least not singing the National Anthem at the rally was Londonderry senior Zach Bencal.

Bencal, who sings the anthem for a number of school events and is actively involved in local community theatre, had been contacted by the Obama campaign to sing the anthem. He agreed to do so, then was told later in the evening the anthem had been scratched from the program. Bencal said he was told by the campaign the decision was a simple programming change to make room for another speaker.

"I guess it just wasn't meant to be," Bencal said.

You're getting this, right? Those of you who are not sure if questions about Obama are legitimate or just right-wing hackery? For those who are not sure, how tall is the stack getting that you are not sure whether you should really question or not?

I'll bet you have to stand on your tip-toes to make eye contact with me by now. Is the 'stack of stuff' telling you anything?

The National Anthem was scrubbed to make room for another laudatory supporting speaker. The. National. Anthem.

Here's a test. Who said or wrote the following quotes and when?

Person 1: "What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."

Person 1: _______________________

When: _________________________

Person 2: "Barack stood up that day and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about the world as it is and the world as it should be. And he said that all too often we accept the distance between the two and settle for the world as it is, even when it doesn't reflect our values and aspirations. But he reminded us that we know what our world should look like. We know what fairness and justice and opportunity look like. And he urged us to believe in ourselves, to find the strength within ourselves to strive for the world as it should be.

[ . . . ] All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won't do. That we have an obligation to fight for the world as it should be. That is the thread that connects our hearts. That is the thread that runs through my journey and Barack's journey and so many other improbable journeys that have brought us here tonight, where the current of history meets this new tide of hope."

Person 2: _______________________

When: _________________________

Person 1: Sol Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals," 1972

Person 2: Michelle Obama, Democrat National Convention, 2008

She weaves into her speech Sol Alinsky's very words through her husbands vision of them, with all its radicalism and visions of changing the fundamental structures of American government packaged in the language that sells: "Hope," "change," and the dripping and endearing "thread that connects our hearts."

She must - they must - connect with the 'middle class' as Alinsky teaches, and rather than fight them - whose values they despise - instead enlist them as disaffecteds and fellow-victims and pit them against the 'upper-class.'

That's what her speech was trying to lay the foundation for: The Connection. And that's what the false packaging of Obama's "tax cuts for 95% of Americans" is trying to solidify, and thus enlist an all-out instigation of class warfare against the top 5%.

Is there not anyone who remembers or understands the rise of the Bolshevik revolution in 1917? This revolution is being waged with words, not arms. This was exactly the lesson Alinsky was trying to teach in his "Rules for Radicals."

When was the last Bill Ayers / Weather Underground bombing? Why, the attentive will notice that they ended right about the time of Alinsky's handbook. The war was only going to be lost with bombs and blood. And Alinsky laid the strategic foundation for what you are watching today, the rise of smiling radicals who have co-opted the system they despise in order to change it, destroy it, and remake society in the image they collectively envision.

And you are wondering just who you should vote for.

When there is no time for the National Anthem, which takes but 3 minutes to pause for, the indicator is impossible to ignore. Add it to past indicators involving the National Anthem. And add it to the rest of your stack of things you aren't sure if you should wonder about. Right on top of the destruction of Joe the Plumber, and right beneath the next public smiling dismissal of Obama's long associations with radical agitators, nay domestic terrorists. Let me know if you can see over it.

Go back. Read Michelle Obama's words again. Then call me crazy.

NOTE: I strongly urge readers to go to The Mark Levin Show and listen to the first 30 minutes of his October 14, 2008 broadcast. Or, just right-click here and save the MP3 file directly to your computer and listen. Because Mark explains - better than anyone I have heard to date - the Alinsky "Rules for Radicals" presence in the words spoken by both Barack Obama and his wife Michelle.

No one else wants to touch it. So radical are their ambitions that to even ponder it can be written off as radical. Such is how the game is played. Such is how you can be played.

I'm a core conservative, but I am also a pretty level-headed guy. I don't say or address such things lightly or with the exuberance of a conspiracy theorist.

Pay attention. It's free.


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Comments (70)

A working person or small b... (Below threshold)

A working person or small business owner voting for 'Hussein the Marxist' is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.

I am 'Joe the Plumber' and 'Joe the Plumber' is me.

I'm pretty certain they'd m... (Below threshold)

I'm pretty certain they'd make room for quotations from the Communist Manisto at The One's rallies.

that should read Communist ... (Below threshold)

that should read Communist Manifesto -- no offense to the Marxist trolls

He's got his own Seal...</p... (Below threshold)

He's got his own Seal...

I can't wait to hear his new anthem, and pledge of allegiance.
Do you think they're finished yet?


This is the level of helple... (Below threshold)

This is the level of helplessness and hopelessness the right wing has come to.

I like the comment I read the other day from someone in Ohio was asked about all the crap like this that the looney right had gotten itself all in a kerfuffle about. His response was to the effect that his 401K had been halved since the end of September, his health insurance has gone through the roof and once, just once he'd like the republicans to talk about issues.

But then you and McCain have no issues. I forgot.

JFO, I really shouldn't res... (Below threshold)

JFO, I really shouldn't respond to you because it has proven fruitless and frustrating because you lack intellectual honesty, but here goes.

You mean like when the left brings up how John McCain can't remember how many houses he owns.

Joe the Plumber doesn't have a license.

Trig is Bristol and Todd's child.

Suuure, you want to talk issues, funny how issues become important when someone starts poking around "THE ONE"

Tell your friend to send a ... (Below threshold)

Tell your friend to send a letter of gratitude for his diminishing 401k to Barney Frank, and while he's at it, he can cc: the rest of the Democratic party.

My husband's 401 has taken a hit too. At least he knows which candidate tried to do something about it.

Now can we question their p... (Below threshold)
ECM Author Profile Page:

Now can we question their patriotism? Especially JFO's?

1980 - I thought Carter was... (Below threshold)

1980 - I thought Carter was a complete waste as President, but he didn't scare me...I voted for Reagan because I genuinely liked him

1992 - I thought Clinton was just a little too slcik, Bush a little to bland, Neither one scared me...I voted for Perot out of spite!

2000 - I thought Gore was a complete STIFF. "W" Bush not much of anything. Neither one scared me (though Gore SHOULD have)...I voted for Bush as the lesser of two "evils"

2004 - I hated, and still hate, Kerry. A traitorous pig who slandered me and every other Vietnam era Vet. I believed and believe Bush has kept us safer than ANYONE expected we would be after 9/11. Kerry scared me a bit...but I voted FOR Bush more than against Kerry.

2008 - Obama TERRIFIES me. Michelle Obama is proud of her country "for the first time", and I fear for the very survival of my country as a FREE nation "for the first time". I have NEVER felt this way before...EVER!!!

Look, you can either sing t... (Below threshold)

Look, you can either sing the praises of America or you can sing the praise of Barack Obama. If you choose America you're probably a racist.

Not singing the National An... (Below threshold)

Not singing the National Anthem at a single campaign event is absolutely irrelevant. It is not in any way a reflection of a candidate's patriotism, and to suggest otherwise is laughably foolish. Go find a better criticism.

How's this absurd anthem ke... (Below threshold)

How's this absurd anthem kerfuffle and hankie-waving angst compare to Palin's statement today that: "I like visiting Pro-America areas of this great nation."

Anyone willing to let us know which areas she thinks aren't "Pro-America"?

Dear conseratives/republica... (Below threshold)
IQ above 100:

Dear conseratives/republicans (scrapiron, macofromoc), I wanted to point out the 5th of 10 measures Karl Marx laid down in his book The Communist Manifesto:

"Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly."

Now, with that in mind gentlemen, your fiscally conservative President Bush with his appointees (Bernanke, Paulson)have enacted this very plank of Marxist Socialism.

Doesn't that make you feel hypocritical inside when you are lambasting Obama as a socialist?

It should, and if it doesn't, please explain to me why not.


IQ above 100

To IQ above 100, I have a f... (Below threshold)

To IQ above 100, I have a few questions for you.

1) Who said that Bush was fiscally conservative?

2) What national bank holds an exclusive monopoly?

3) Even if a national bank with an exclusive monopoly had been created, how does that somehow unmake Barack Obama a Karl Marx socialist?

4) How would someone with an IQ above 100 pose a question with non-factual premises?

IQ above 100No I d... (Below threshold)

IQ above 100

No I don't feel hypocritical because Ive been totally against the bailout from the beginning, I emailed and phoned my representatives and told them how I felt about it. The bailout is absolutely a socialist move, but it was done anyway. By the way, the democrats didn't need any republicans to pass the measure in the house but they couldn't do it without them? They meant that they needed someone to blame in case the whole thing flopped.
Try again IQ(I don't believe it's above 100)

Anyone willing to let us... (Below threshold)

Anyone willing to let us know which areas she thinks aren't "Pro-America"?

Sure. Here are a few:
Obama headquarters,
MSM newsrooms,
Obama's Trinity "Church",
DNC headquarters.

JFO, I can't speak... (Below threshold)


I can't speak for Governor Palin, but in my opinion San Fransisco is a pretty Anti-American area.

Major League Baseball, chan... (Below threshold)

Major League Baseball, change your schedule for me.
I don't have enough time to speak, let's cut the National Anthem.
Look out America, here comes Senator Government!

George:1: Bush's 2... (Below threshold)


1: Bush's 2007 State of the Union Speech left him as a posterboy of fiscal conservatism (as the dems took over congress)

2: The Federal Reserve (which hilariously enough isn't actually part of our government)

3: I didn't claim it would unmake anything, yet I felt the proper analog would be to shed light on Bush's recent policies with respect to the dreaded S word (socialism), especially since people loooooooooooove to lampoon Obama as a socialist

4: To insight thoughtful discussion

Chip: I called my senator as well, it made me proud to voice my opinion, so good for you. Alas, I'm not interested in placing blame on anyone for the passage of the bailout.

Now I will concede this: The leadership in our country had to do SOMETHING to stem the bleeding, and the bailout was passed.

I remember a Jewish man say... (Below threshold)

I remember a Jewish man saying that "Hilter did not take power, he was VOTED IN to power".

This democrat party is not your father's or grandfather's party anymore, it belongs to the hate America and socalist types. And obama has no business running for president, at least not this country.

Having lived in the land of... (Below threshold)

Having lived in the land of fruits and nuts, can I nominate Berkley as anti-American?

Hypocritical to call Obama ... (Below threshold)

Hypocritical to call Obama a socialist? At least a socialist puppet. Obama's father and Raila Odinga belonged to the same Kenyan tribe. In 2006, Obama gave one million American tax dollars and campaigned in support of Odinga. This man Obama supports is a genocidal maniac and wants to establish Islam as the only true religion:

Obama's Kenya ghosts

"About 50 parishioners were locked into the Assemblies of God church before it was set ablaze. They were mostly women and children. Those who tried to flee were hacked to death by machete-wielding members of a mob numbering 2,000.

The 2008 New Year Day atrocity in the Kenyan village Eldoret, about 185 miles northwest of Nairobi, had all the markings of the Rwanda genocide of a decade earlier.

By mid-February 2008, more than 1,500 Kenyans were killed. Many were slain by machete-armed attackers. More than 500,000 were displaced by the religious strife. Villages lay in ruin. Many of the atrocities were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians.

The violence was led by supporters of Raila Odinga, the opposition leader who lost the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential election by more than 230,000 votes. Odinga supporters began the genocide hours after the final election results were announced Dec. 30. Mr. Odinga was a member of Parliament representing an area in western Kenya, heavily populated by the Luo tribe, and the birthplace of Barack Obama's father.

Mr. Odinga had the backing of Kenya's Muslim community heading into the election. For months he denied any ties to Muslim leaders, but fell silent when Sheik Abdullahi Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum, appeared on Kenya television displaying a memorandum of understanding signed on Aug. 29, 2007, by Mr. Odinga and the Muslim leader. Mr. Odinga then denied his denials.

The details of the MOU were shocking. In return for Muslim backing, Mr. Odinga promised to impose a number of measures favored by Muslims if he were elected president. Among these were recognition of "Islam as the only true religion," Islamic leaders would have an "oversight role to monitor activities of ALL other religions [emphasis in original]," installation of Shariah courts in every jurisdiction, a ban on Christian preaching, replacement of the police commissioner who "allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists," adoption of a women's dress code, and bans on alcohol and pork."


"To insight thoughtful d... (Below threshold)

"To insight thoughtful discussion"

To IQ above 100: Incite.

Good day.

I suppose it was my folly t... (Below threshold)

I suppose it was my folly to assume thoughtful discussion could and would take place here. At least I did get a spelling correction.

Justrand:I voted j... (Below threshold)


I voted just the opposite from you in 1980 and 1992, but I was with you in 2000 and really with you in 2004.

I agree with you 100% on this one.

"I suppose it was my folly ... (Below threshold)

"I suppose it was my folly to assume thoughtful discussion could and would take place here."

No folly at all. You asked a question and I answered it in a way I felt was the most thoughtful during this election season. Have a good evening.

Thoughtful discussion? As ... (Below threshold)

Thoughtful discussion? As you point out hypocrisy that isn't here? As you use a Marxist point that doesn't fit? As you disregard the subject of the post to confront two people on something they didn't say? As, in doing so, you ignore Obama's recent "spread the wealth" comment that comes straight from the manifesto you cite? Then you go on to say you're not looking to blame anyone and you cede that SOMETHING had to be done? That "thoughtful discussion?

Not that you expected it or anything. Not that you thought signing off with your IQ implies that you think you're the only thinking one here amongst a bunch of hypocrites.

Many of us were against the bailout and called it socialist. I had mixed feelings myself. No, I don't feel hypocritical inside.

"2008 - Obama TERRIFIES me.... (Below threshold)

"2008 - Obama TERRIFIES me. Michelle Obama is proud of her country "for the first time", and I fear for the very survival of my country as a FREE nation "for the first time". I have NEVER felt this way before...EVER!!!"

I am Canadian, and Obama TERRIFIES THE HELL out of me. Not only for what he will do to your county, but what he will do for mine as well. As crazy left as my country can seem to Yanks (thank God we got a Conservative gov. this election), I have never heard the likes of Bambam and what he plans for a 1st world country. But I think what is most terrifying, is the amount of people of whom have actually fallen for his spiel. No FIBERAL has ever kept their word when it comes to savings; tax and spend is their mantra. The USA is in my prayers.

Lots of countries "spread t... (Below threshold)

Lots of countries "spread the wealth", have billionaires, successful corporations, plenty of opportunity for entrepreneurs (a French word!), and embarrass the United States on objective quality of life measures including literacy, infant mortality, teen pregnancy, and poverty. "Spreading the wealth" isn't stealing, it's a family of economic models (including yours--you do pay taxes, y'know), that work better than the anarcho-libertarian nonsense you pretend you want but don't fully understand. Helping children, regardless of how stupid or unsuccessful their parents are, is good for the economy, and good for the nation as a whole. And yes, successful people ought to contribute to the betterment of other people's children. But screw reading economics textbooks, what does Joe the Plumber have to say about optimal rates of taxation as they relate to objective (quantifiable) quality of life indices?

To sum up hyperbolist:... (Below threshold)

To sum up hyperbolist:

"I like to pay taxes. With them, I buy civilization."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

[quote]And yes, successful ... (Below threshold)
Infidel Yankee:

[quote]And yes, successful people ought to contribute to the betterment of other people's children.[/quote]

We already do. It's called property taxes. The majority of property tax goes to fund the public school system. And I'm sure you're aware that the only real opportunity children have to better themselves is through education. Everyone, from apartment renters to homeowners, already pays property tax.

So now you want to tax us even more?

Confirmed: The obammymessia... (Below threshold)

Confirmed: The obammymessiah-saviour-commie-pinko really does hate his country.
In the Oath of Enlistment is a line referring to the defense of the Constitution of The United States of America, against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Seems to me there is a similar line in the Oath of Office of The President of The United States of America. Ya think he will actually pay attention? I don't think so since every word and deed of this "gentleman?" seeks to dismember the Constitution. Barack Hussein Obama is an enemy of the Constitution and therefore The United States of America.
The Old Retired Petty Officer is very rarely wrong when it comes to Traitors.

IQ over 100 (although I thi... (Below threshold)
venividivici Author Profile Page:

IQ over 100 (although I think you're exaggerating by about 99 points),

The "bailout" is not really a "bailout", nor is it "socialistic". The premise behind the plan is that since the government isn't subject to its own "mark to market" rules and regulations regarding capital adequacy, it will take on the assets of banks that have become devalued to the point where the banks cannot mark them to market or else their regulatory capital levels will not be met. For these assets, the Treasury will give them cash (or take equity, it's become a bit murky and I prefer the original plan of giving them cash) and take the assets onto its (well, I think technically it's the Federal Reserve's) balance sheet until such time as those assets can be sold, potentially at a profit, but possibly at a loss, depending on what happens with the housing market.

The "bailout" is more of a "reset" button for banks that got in over their heads with bad mortgage assets, at least partially because of government-sponsored entities such as Freddie and Fannie, whose foray into guaranteeing subprime mortgages was aided and abetted from Day 1 by Democrats and almost solely by Democrats, and partially because of mark to market accounting rules, which were put in place to solve a whole other set of issues (and from which the FASB is now backing away, seeing how much damage they can cause in illiquid markets inhabited by distressed sellers). Those banks will still have to go to the private markets to get enough capital to get them back to the appropriate capitalization levels to meet regulatory requirements, or they will have to be bought by banks that can, like Washington Mutual had to be bought.

Even the equity positions that the government is taking are more of the type of "options" so that the government can benefit if the banks in question make it back on their feet. These options would then presumably be sold in the open market and the funds transferred back to the Treasury where they could become part of the US governments general account, to be used to fund government programs. The idea isn't that Ben Bernanke is going to be sitting in on board meetings, which is what real socialism would entail.

So, no, I don't feel hypocritical when I call Obama a socialist because I know what I'm actually talking about, thankfully, rather than throwing out accusations of hypocrisy on topics that I know no more about than the average monkey knows about calculus.

Oh, and Obama not having the kid sing the National Anthem? Typical of that prick.

What a LOWLIFE Socialist. ... (Below threshold)
B Blake:

What a LOWLIFE Socialist. My America is not going to be part of his. I wouldn't walk to my mailbox to see obamma. I'd choose an Irish Sweepstakes chance over this Kenyan dreams...

"Hey kid, here's your music... (Below threshold)

"Hey kid, here's your music."

Rustles sheets...

"I'm sorry mister, but I've never heard of the "Internationale"?"

"Oops. Sorry, kid, but we've just found out that there's not enough time for the anthem today. See you next time, m'kay?"

Any questions?


Michelle O also said at one... (Below threshold)
PJ Author Profile Page:

Michelle O also said at one time that she fell in love with Barack when they went to an organizing meeting and he gave a speech with "the world as it is" bit. She changed her tune on another show later; they fell in love somewhere else entirely.

Justrand - Thank y... (Below threshold)
Steve Schippert:

Justrand -

Thank you for your service. I said speaking at the first MilBlogger Conference a few years ago that I have more uncles (and a father and step-father) who are Vietnam vets than I have aunts. And that's nearly a mathematical fact.

Got a special spot for Vietnam vets.

After that first conference, I wrote the piece linked below. I wrote it about one man, but I wrote it for you, and for my father, my uncles and all Vietnam Vets, who each deserve far more than the least among us afforded them when they needed it - and deserved it - most.

The other half of National ... (Below threshold)
Peter Truong:

The other half of National Anthem is Kenya National Anthem, or Al Qaeda.

If you want to see Barak's ... (Below threshold)

If you want to see Barak's cousin, check this out, he's running for office too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBJouPhws1M >obama-odinga cousins?

and let's invision this in our country, heck, it will be our country if the great messiah gets elected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ >Barack Obama & Raila Odinga

and let's not forget, Barack will distribute our wealth, no one should have a lot of money when there are poor people sitting on their rump picking their nose waiting for their check to arrive, work hard so we can help the lazy survive. Yep, gotta love it.

JFO - "Anyone willing t... (Below threshold)

JFO - "Anyone willing to let us know which areas she thinks aren't "Pro-America"?"

Try this on for size... any place outside of Capital Hill.

sorry, make that inside Cap... (Below threshold)

sorry, make that inside Capital Hill.

You idiots, Obama scares yo... (Below threshold)

You idiots, Obama scares you, all Bush did was destroy America to the rest of the world, put the economy on the brink of disaster, put us in Iraq for no real reason (weapons of mass destruction?). If your racist your racist, you can't help it, your scared because he's 1/2 black, get over it cause he's gonna win, you dealt with Bush for 8 years, now deal with Obama

I need you to think of the ... (Below threshold)

I need you to think of the famous word Obama likes to be called...The Messiah.
Any true Christain who is called the Messiah would immediately reject it and demand he/she never be called that again.
What does the word Messiah stand for : the annointed one: the deliverer: the Christ: the
saviour or liberator.
There is only one man given title to the Messiah on earth and that man is Jesus Christ. The title of Messiah given by God himself. He didn't give it to Obama or any other man, God
One must then ask oneself...why would anyman
take up the title as the Messiah knowing that
it pertains to Jesus Christ?
This is what the Lord warned us about the coming of the Anti Christ or the False Christ.
This is why I would never vote for Obama even if he was the last man on earth. The guy is not
repentive. Know this, that God knows the hearts
of all men. He sees thru Obama and for Obama not being repentive nor publicly demands not to be called the Messiah, I believe that God will
take away his lead and he will lose to McCain in a landslide.
I believe that as I write this letter, God is
changing many minds in favor of McCain.

Laugh all you want, but as a democrat,a devout
christain, I feel God is working his will.
What's impossible to man is not impossible to God.

Jim...can i have your email... (Below threshold)

Jim...can i have your email? I'd love to send you a news clip or two on or around November 4th, 2008 and let you know who "God" really wants to be president, if of course, he cares. The fact that people can live through 8 years of a president who destroys the economy, the image of America around the world, doubles the national deficit, and nullifies its very own constitution (in a George Orwellian nature) and then somehow blame it on a man who's running for president? if obama screws up half as much as this last president it will be success. and for all those "pro-Americans" out there who so willingly hate on the will of the majority of their own country will grudgingly blame everything possible on this man Obama and the Dems. i dont know what to think of Republican (not conservative, but Republican) viewpoints sometimes.

So...because i live in Nort... (Below threshold)
NorCal Freak:

So...because i live in Northern California I may be Anti-American?
That is preposterous!
Obama has the ability to bring together some of todays greatest minds to actually facilitate action rather than this stalled out mess we find ourselves in. Even if you don't agree with the man doesn't mean there has to be all these weird hateful blogposts going on.
How about some issues? or is that too deep for your shallow mind?
Get real America. Respect, remember the word?

I feel like I just walked i... (Below threshold)

I feel like I just walked into a room called "cognitive dissonance."

I certainly will not change a single viewpoint of anyone here, but I will say I am personally offended that where I live might be lumped into some ill-defined region that falls outside of the "American" parts of America. What a stupid concept!

Xenophobia is not American. Closed mindedness is not American. Stupidity is not American.

So, everyone, both Democrat and Republican, how about trying for once to find common ground and start rebuilding this country, instead of continuing to fight and squabble over the fringe, wedge issues? The greatest people in history had passion but were not filled with rage and anger.

Think about that for a minute, and while you do, think about what you could actually do to help rebuild this country. It is in dire shape and needs real help for real Americans right now.

This entire blog article is... (Below threshold)

This entire blog article is absurd - it sounds just like conspiracy material

It's the same crap from the Right about Obama being a communist or a Marxist. The problem is that most, if not all of you, even knows what communism or Marxism really means - you do not even know what the definition of "the means of production" or any of the specific language that these political theories discuss.

EVERY election, the Right tries to portray the Democratic candidates as being far-left radicals, or just mere tax-and-spend Big Government liberals. (While government has grown fastest under Republican administrations.)

Here is the thing: MOST Americans are SICK of the Bush administration, and the same people on here criticizing Obama are the same ones that voted for Bush and helped to bring our current mess to this nation. WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE TIRED OF IT.

Why the heck are we going to listen to the rantings of right-wingers who can't even identify the problems in this nation - if they even realize they are problems - while they rant and rave their ignorant, xenophobic, uneducated rubbish.

The lot of you right-wingers do not even know what America really is, but it certainly isn't your closed-minded, authoritarian version of our nation.

WOW!!! incredible....after ... (Below threshold)

WOW!!! incredible....after reading some of the comments of people on here. One cant help but check there drivers licenses to make sure that the're actually in "America" The biggest issue that I can see is that everyone forgets that no matter who you support, we're all "Americans." At the end of the day we will all have to join together and support the next president. We will have to show "unity" in order to get the world to respect us again. Someone must win and someone must lose. If your candidate loses, will you not be an "American?" I'm an independent because both parties have inconsistencies. If you dig into everyones garbage...you will find trash. The funny thing is everyone is so judgemental. Taking every statement and analyzing it to find their own meaning. Its ok to be objective and critical of the next leader of the free world. But people are questioning Baracks patriotism, ethics, and loyalty to the country that he loves. I highly doubt that Al Quaeda has a training camp on the southside of chicago. I also doubt that Obama will take the constitution and sell it on ebay. But whats likely is that things will get worse....if someone doesnt make a change. You cant hide from the inevitable. You may not be affected by the hardships of the middle class, lower middle class just yet. But it will only be a matter of time before you will be. Lets all agree to disagree and then go have a beer when its all over with!!!

John McCain and his Campaig... (Below threshold)
Campesino, Ricardo:

John McCain and his Campaign,
Of course no one would or could question Mr McCain's patriatism and his campaign knows this quite well.But, is this what qualifies someone for the complexities of being the right person for the President's office? I pray that we don't base our decision on John McCains patiotic status. These are changing times, tough times, the Republican greed machine has lied, mislead ,caused our World decline in every area of integrity, caused the sad deaths of our young hero Men and Woman, greed and power has saturated our politics, our envirnment , our Human Rights, and of course our means of survival on a dasy to day basis. That is what John McCain offers more of to the America we all love..We must give Barack OBama this oportunity to change Washington, not what John McCain has accomplished in his 30 years in government, he rpresents all the failures of our individual rights to suceed.

To George :You say... (Below threshold)

To George :

You say Hollywood is anti-American?? You know when ever there is a national tragedy...like hurricanes and so on Hollywood-actors and alike are the ones putting up millions for causes...and volunteering and opening organizations to aid...where the hell are the so-called Christian conservatives...I know. Some where calling someone unamerican while sitting on there ass not doing anything but making themselves rich and demonizing anyone who doesn't share there views. I also find it ODD that people would call any African-American unpatriotic...they have been considered unamerican ever since they were forced here and enslaved...yet during the civil war and every war thereafter they put themselves on the front line for a country who thought of them as less than human and unamerican.

If people keep trying to incite violence by calling Obama a terrorist there could a lot of people who end up hurt...It's a shame...this is the only country so hell-bent on eating it's own and racism...we go to Iraq to so called liberate them, yet treat African American here as terrorist who are unpatriotic.

But you know time will tell and what goes around...comes around.

I'm a little confused. Let ... (Below threshold)

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic' and 'different.'

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're an American story.

If your name is Barack, you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

Name your kids Willow , Trig and Track, and you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, then you're well-grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, help register 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, 8 years as a State Senator of a district of 750,000 people, chair the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people, sponsor 131 bills, and serve on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works, and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your resume is local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town of 7,000 people, 2 years as governor of a state of 650,000 people, you're qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, left your ill wife, and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age-appropriate sex education, including the use of birth control, you erode the fiber of American society.

If you staunchly advocate abstinence-only education, while your teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're a responsible American.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, you don't represent America 's family values.

If your husband is called 'First Dude', has a DWI conviction, didn't register to vote until 25, and was a member of a group that advocated secession of Alaska from the USA, yours is the quintessential American family.

And, finally, if you're famous for your quick temper, received a rating of zero on environmental issues in all your many years as a Senator after a thorough and careful review of your voting record by the League of Conservation Voters, crashed several military aircraft before being shot down over Vietnam, and graduated from the Naval Academy in the lowest 1% of your class, you're the one to become Commander-in-Chief of this nation and have your finger on the red nuclear button

OK, much clearer now.

Where did you go to school?... (Below threshold)
Patriot J:

Where did you go to school? One on the back of a matchbook cover? With everything facing America today, that's the best talking point you could muster? Two wars, one illegal, the economy, Supreme Court nominees, and the course of the country for 4-8 years and the best you have is a song cut from a rally? Please. Was it because at the final debate, Obama wore a flag pin but McCAin did not? I recall when THAT was the litmus test for "patriotism". It's people like YOU who have ruined the credibility of the news and why newspapers are folding in this country.

You and your "outraged" supporters are a bunch of maroons....

See that fork stuck in you? It means "you're done".

While the not pledgeing to ... (Below threshold)

While the not pledgeing to the flag and not wearing a flag lapel pin and now dropping the National Anthem is disturbing, at the moment I'm more concerned with Why the government is saying that in approx Ten (10) yrs retirement benefits will be no more, I mean after all isn't that why we are paying into Social Sec taxs. Maybe I'm missing something here, this is supposed to be a rich country, where's the money going into certain peoples pockets.

Well, good morining everyon... (Below threshold)

Well, good morining everyone. I see the Libs have decided to join the group. I love how they dance in talking about why can't we all get along and change the tone, as they take the unfounded, backhanded swipes at John McCain.
I am sorry that they are confused about who holds the greatest culpability for the shape of our economy today (lets all blame W.).I guess Senetors Dodd, Frank and Obama don't want to "fess up".
And Tawan, I'll tell you where the Christians are in times of disaster...WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINES...not hiding behind our check books and forming a foundadtion on our celebrity. We are in Mississippi, and Louisiana and Texas and Haiti and Cuba rebuilding homes, and giving physical aid to people, actual people, who need someone to come along beside them and help them and hurt with them and cry with them and experience the losses with them, and share with them and care for them...get the picture. Don't hate God for being good.

Now Jim: Although we are can certainly agree on God's hand in this election, and that God's will is most definately being worked out as we see every day, we can never presume to know what God is doing. Keep praying, but unless God has personally spoken to you and told you exactly what he was going to do in the election, keep your pearls out of the pig pen.

Jon, Since Obama is ... (Below threshold)

Since Obama is running for President of the USA one who hope that if anything had to cut it would be the speakers time and he would show respect to America by opening up with our National Anthem. It shows a lack in good judgment and makes one wonder of his love of country. He and his running mate have repeatedly question others Patriotism so it only FAIR that we can question theirs when they do act like this.

I do not look on leaders to be good because of race, gender , religion or national origin. The world has had a lot of really horrible people in power whether they be White (Hitler) Black (Ida Amin) Women (Countess Elizabeth Báthory) Asian (Pol Pot), Christian (Queen Mary) Muslim (Osama ). Also I do not see the great promise of Marxist, Socialist, Communist leaders as being good thing for the common man (Joseph Stalin, Khmer Rouge, Cultural Revolution)

So I just look at their acts and statements and then come to my own decision.

Therefore looking at the content of Obama character I see him as Marxist.

When you say in your own words you admire Sal Alinksy
When you your mentor is a member of the Communist Party of America
When the Democratic Sodalist Party endorses you.
When you attend a church Based on Black Liberation Theology which is racist Marxist Philosophies.
When you state in college you found all the Marxist professors to hang around with.
When you talk about dreams of your father. A father who believed in 100% tax for all Rich People

When you slip up and talk about using government to force the sharing of wealth.

When you want to have 7 dollar gas so you can redistribute American Wealth to countries oversea.

Your un patriot when you say people who where flag pins are faux patriots

You're a radical when all the people you associate with from your time in Hawaii to today are all radicals.

Nope skin colot does not play into it facts do.

Xenophobia is not ... (Below threshold)
Xenophobia is not American. Closed mindedness is not American. Stupidity is not American.

Hm. They only come out at twilight, when they think the lion is asleep.

Neither is Christian genocide, and supporting a man who believes that "Islam is the only true religion" American, either. Details...

To start, we're going to take Michigan next week. Detroit's a mess and Obama is not going to help clean that up. Long gone will be the days when it used to be "cool" to say stay out of that town.

John McCain and hi... (Below threshold)
John McCain and his Campaign,

Ricardo, they aren't here. They are busy campaigning.

jon~Repetitious co... (Below threshold)


Repetitious copy and paste still doesn't work here. Unless you want to include the people calling Obama The One and "The Messiah" (Louis Farrakhan called him the latter.)

It's not Obama who is needed for change.

Apparently one of our lefty... (Below threshold)

Apparently one of our lefty friends here has employed his/her minions to infect the voting process on comments. Just as they want to do to our real votes.

Don't whine that the meanin... (Below threshold)

Don't whine that the meaningless comment votes might better reflect reality than they normally do, Oyster. Surely you have better ways to occupy yourself on a Saturday morning.

our dogs can't even get it ... (Below threshold)

our dogs can't even get it Right. How is it possible that Obama dog collars outsell McCain dog collars at www.muzzle-tov.com?

Feel the change in the tide... (Below threshold)

Feel the change in the tides? It's the surge of Americans who've sworn, at some time in their lives, to defend The Constitution, not the country, not the President, not Congress, but The Constitution. Obama imperils The Constitution. Feel the frantic frenzied shivers in the Obama spine? It's FEAR, fear that America is seeing clearly the well-made plans for a complete Marxist takeover, plans that have been in the making since the bomb-throwing days of Bill & Bernadine. That other feeling? Schadenfreude over the antics of trolls unnamed! Joe, SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! lol
Sing along, trolls, since your Dear Leader won't.

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Is the Republican party so ... (Below threshold)

Is the Republican party so desperate to win votes that this kind of silly, "patriotism" hair-splitting an issue? Yes, lets have four more years of war profiteering and socialism for the rich by a guy who wants to take away the few remaining health care benefits for the poor, but at least he wears his flag pin and salutes the rag and has the anthem at his rallies of crazy old ladies who shout "kill the terrorist, he's a secret muslim" because a guy is black and has a middle eastern name. Yes, that's much better. That's nowhere near as bad as cutting out an old boring song from a party...

love for or devotion to one... (Below threshold)

love for or devotion to one's country
If you do not have that then why would you want to be President of that country. Patortism is not an option. If you have no devotion to the USA then the oath of office means noththing.

Obama is the one who question other love of country.
"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest.

If he feels he can question the motavations of others weariing American flag pins everyone can question his.

When he maintains political, professional, finical and spiritual relationships with people who publicly attack the USA both verbally and literally I believe it is fair to ask about his devotion to this country. When he talks about being a citizen of the world one wonders how he will serve two masters. Either he is citizen of the World or a Citizen of the USA. The president has to look at what is in the best interest of the United States and then work on getting others to see that. If he must compromise it must not be to the detriment of USA.

When he exposes Marxist beliefs about sharing the wealth, It makes one pause. Because , anyone who knows Marx knows he advocated a dictatorship to force others to share the wealth.

BTW It is the Flag, a symbol of our heritage. If you do not like I,t you can Burn it. Which is the proper way to dispose of the Flag of the US. Just do not call symbol that men and women have died to protect a rag.

"Surely you have better ... (Below threshold)

"Surely you have better ways to occupy yourself on a Saturday morning."

Surely you have Canadian issues to attend to.

Looks like the Obama-morons... (Below threshold)

Looks like the Obama-morons infected your site....

The question which Obama has to answer before he is elected as president is:

Why has Obama been drawn to a succession of openly rabid anti-American associates who have an extreme hatred of this country, its government and a large segment of its citizens? (Ayers, Doern, Phleger, Klonsky, Frank Marshall Davis, and Jeremiah Wright)

What attracts Obama to such people? Don't the American people deserve a look at Obama thinking process concerning these radical people?

Points to Ponder:D... (Below threshold)

Points to Ponder:

Does no one question the timing of when Obama left Rev. Wright's church? It was a political move, pure and simple, and you would have to kid yourself to believe that after 20 years Rev. Wright all of the sudden lost it and became a radical "preacher" and this drove Barack to disagree with his pastor's teachings. So then the logical conclusion is that Obama's mentor for 20 years had some ideas, to put it sarcastically, that were "out of the box." These only perpetuated the divide of America.

Also why does Joe the Plumber require more investigative reporting than William Ayers? Maybe Joe was a former radical plumber who plumbed without a license (even though his state doesn't require one). At the very least, I'm sure Mr. Ayers didn't have his terrorist license.

Why is America in love with a guy who got his talking points from Bob the Builder? Can we do it? Yes, we can!

Obama might be a socialist radical, and I said might, but at least he can type. Yes He Can!

One point missing from many... (Below threshold)
Tom Burns:

One point missing from many blogs/forums is that should the 'Great Leader' win in November (Heaven Forbid)which will be a disaster for the WHOLE world not just the USA but the fact that 'Loopy Lou" Biden will be President shortly after.Just a thought!
Re the Osama Hussein trolling off to Hawaii. I guess the poisoned chocolates arrived just in time so Blambum can race over and have a super 'photo-shoot' with the poor granny, who probably has never heard of Blimbam in her life.
Hussein Osama is probably a 'switch baby' which is common in Africa, a way of getting sobs into other countries. Europe and the Americas are full of them.
I woder how quickly we can impeach Biden? We have all the evidence we need.

THE PERFECT STORM FOR A DEP... (Below threshold)

A far left Media ...
A far left President ...
A far left Congress ...
A far left Senate ...
A far left Supreme Court ...
This would eliminate all the checks and
balances that our democracy is based upon.
Barack Obama formed his political and economic
ideology, and his radical associations, during the
TWENTY YEARS ... yes, that's TWENTY YEARS ... when
he followed Marxist Black Liberation Theology, in
Jeremiah Wright's anti-American, racist church.
And, now, with our country on the brink of depression,
Obama wants to impose new laws which would change
America into a third world country.
You may be upset with George Bush, but in spite
of Obama's slogans, John McCain is NOT George Bush ...
so don't over react to Obama's 600 million dollar
Propaganda campaign designed to highjack America !!!
A vote for Obama is a vote for changing America beyond
recognition ... and, it would be a vote for voter fraud,
a corrupt media, socialism, and the end to America as we know it.
Keep America free, strong, safe, and American ...
Elect McCain/Palin on November 4th.

I love the Mark Levin show.... (Below threshold)

I love the Mark Levin show. It's the best show ever, and I'm pissed the liberals can't take the truth so they're trying to silence it.

Thanks for posting this,






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