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About that Taxing of Benefits to Pay for Health Care Thing

It won't apply to unions. Interesting how the collectivists stick together and watch each others' backs. Link via Ace.

The U.S. Senate proposal to impose taxes for the first time on "gold-plated" health plans may bypass generous employee benefits negotiated by unions.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, the chief congressional advocate of taxing some employer-provided benefits to help pay for an overhaul of the U.S. health system, says any change should exempt perks secured in existing collective- bargaining agreements, which can be in place for as long as five years.

The exception, which could make the proposal more politically palatable to Democrats from heavily unionized states such as Michigan, is adding controversy to an already contentious debate. It would shield the 12.4 percent of American workers who belong to unions from being taxed while exposing some other middle-income workers to the levy.

I'm no constitutional lawyer like our dear President Obama, but I see "violation of the equal protection clause" written all over this.


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Kim:"violation of ... (Below threshold)


"violation of the equal protection clause"

Nah, you see, some animals are MORE EQUAL than others. Just ask Barry, he's all for FAIRNESS.

I can't believe this. I fee... (Below threshold)

I can't believe this. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone or something. Is this really happening?

So here in this one article... (Below threshold)

So here in this one article we have the abondonment of not one, but two campaign promises;
1: 95% of the American people will not be taxed.
2: I will not tax healthcare benefits like that nasty John Mcain
and a ploy to protect a constitunecy from said broken promises.
How can anyone defend this guy? I mean seriosly, forget the bull in the china shop this guy is a friggin MOAB in a Stueben Crystal warhouse. Can we at least forget the pretence that he is somehow a different more ethical politician and call him out for the lying sack that he is?

I'm no constitutional la... (Below threshold)

I'm no constitutional lawyer like our dear President Obama, but I see "violation of the equal protection clause" written all over this.

So what? The Chrysler and GM bankruptcies violated the contracts clause of the Constitution. Didn't stop the socialist swine then, did it? Won't stop them now, either.

Wake up, Kim. The Constitution means nothing anymore. The conservative cry of "That's unconstitutional!" has become a version of the six-year-old's perennial complaint "That's not faiiiiir!" It may be true, or it may not, but either way, it doesn't matter because the ones making the decisions don't care.

So let me get this right. ... (Below threshold)

So let me get this right. It's not enough that one would voluntarily enter into a private insurance system where some benefit more than others. As a result of being part of that system they must pay more to benefit another system they are not even part of.

Is that about right?

the pace of "Change" in Was... (Below threshold)

the pace of "Change" in Washington is being intentionally accelerated. the clever pols on the Left know for a fact that the American public barely keeps up with events that move at a slower pace...and not at all when the pace accelerates.

Further, so much of the legislation spewing forth has a "Nah...no WAY they did THAT!" quality to it, that even if it hits their radar screen the average American thinks they misread it!

bnorm...it IS The Twilight Zone...it is the twilight of America, and the light is fading fast!

Rules for they no for me. ... (Below threshold)

Rules for they no for me. mpw

Justrand beat me to it, bno... (Below threshold)

Justrand beat me to it, bnorm; This ain't no adolescent novella about sex hidden under a vampire metaphor, its our life blood being sucked out of us from a huge carotid laceration and the bloody perpetrators are howling victoriously at the moon.

Violation of the Constituti... (Below threshold)

Violation of the Constitution? And who would either report that or take the issue to court? One of our steel-spined republican politicians?

So if I took a non-union jo... (Below threshold)

So if I took a non-union job my healthcare benefits can be taxed, but if I took a union one they aren't? Please, Paul, jp2, hyper and Lee, explain this to me. After you're done reading and providing the explanation of support to the last 300 page amendment to the Cap and Trade bill. That might take you a while. I'll wait.

Please, Paul, jp2,... (Below threshold)
Please, Paul, jp2, hyper and Lee, explain this to me. After you're done reading and providing the explanation of support to the last 300 page amendment to the Cap and Trade bill. That might take you a while. I'll wait.

No use in waiting for the Wizbang Blue gang to comment on this thread. They are off watching the lovefest the media has for Michael Jackson.

Frankly I think that if the... (Below threshold)

Frankly I think that if they try to push this, that once the word gets out it will lead to a massive resistance. It is offensive in every way.

"exceller" 2:08"ma... (Below threshold)

"exceller" 2:08

"massive resistance from ....." WHOM? These
bastards are handing out turd sandwiches
and there's a big cry for "seconds".

Bravo Trajan. So much said ... (Below threshold)
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Bravo Trajan. So much said in so few words.

SHAM WOW Obama is the best snake oil salesman in the last hundred years and the suckers are eating it up.

Wrong, Sanford. The Blue We... (Below threshold)

Wrong, Sanford. The Blue Weenies barely touched Michael Jackson. Over there, it's been All Sanford, All The Time.

Oh, and enforcing a comments policy that isn't even linked to from their site -- but they did cut and paste it into a comments thread, which they then closed down.


Since no one wants to beat ... (Below threshold)

Since no one wants to beat the zombie horse (its dead but its back to kill us) of health care in this thread - goodness knows its been discussed on line ad nauseum - my take on their fascination with MJ and Sanford is they are INSANELY jealous. MJ had a castle and all the kiddies (and grown up) boy toys he wanted, Sanford had a Latin Lover, for God's sake, and look what the Dem bad boys got!

Jay,I think we touch... (Below threshold)

I think we touched a nerve. Pointing out that Lee is indeed a fallible human being = trolling.
Funny, given how caustic he was here before Kevin gave him his own soapbox, and how sanctimonious he is now regarding proper decorum.

Well, you've got to pay for... (Below threshold)

Well, you've got to pay for health care somehow...

Axelrod: Obama Won't Rule Out Middle-Class Tax Hike - George's Bottom Line

White House senior adviser David Axelrod said the president won't rule out a health care reform bill that includes a middle-class tax hike.

"The president had said in the past that he doesn't believe taxing health care benefits at any level is necessarily the best way to go here. He still believes that," Axelrod told me on This Week, "But there are a number of formulations and we'll wait and see. The important thing at this point is to keep the process moving, to keep people at the table, to the keep the discussions going. We've gotten a long way down the road and we want to finish that journey."
Yeah, it may LOOK like jumping off the cliff is a viable alternative to taking the road the rest of the way, and it certainly gets you to your destination faster... if your destination's a pile of steaming economic wreckage... but there's usually a reason why the road goes in a different direction when it gets close to the cliff edge.

H/T Instapundit

By the way, you notice how - even when faced with breaking one of the most fundamental promises of his campaign - Obama WILL NOT SCALE BACK the spending? Grab everything you can with Waxman's cap and tax? Grab everything you can regarding health care? Grab control of the banks? Grab control of industry?

Grabby little bastards, aren't they?

The Democrats are grabbing everything they can for the government. The question is - will there be anything left for US?






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