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"It took the president six months to decide how long and which puppy he was going to have. ... To expect Congress to do something on major health care reform in six days is totally irresponsible."

Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA), on President Obama's rush to put a health care reform bill together before Congress's August recess.

GOP ratchets up health care reform debate [CNN]


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It sure is a dog of a bill.... (Below threshold)

It sure is a dog of a bill.

What a brilliant remark by ... (Below threshold)

What a brilliant remark by rep. Deal. I hope more of the congress and senate pick it up and use it.

The President and the Democ... (Below threshold)
The Obvious One:

The President and the Democrats place a higher priority on health care for the nation's uninsured than they do on the selection of a household pet.

Obviously Republicans don't.

Obviously the Republicans would prefer NO progress on health care -- ever. Many seem to be hoping this will be Obama's "Waterloo".

How many Americans will die needlessly as a result of this GOP foot-dragging?

Nathan Deal is <a href="htt... (Below threshold)

Nathan Deal is an asshole who hates the Constitution. Here's a guy who talks about repealing the 14th Amendment: now obviously he's not so stupid as to think that that will ever happen, but he sure knows which buttons to push in order to placate the xenophobic knuckle draggers that constitute his political base.

Yeah, forget healthcare reform! Government should focus on more important and realistic goals, like deporting all them gawd-dang Mexican-American babies.

"How many Americans will di... (Below threshold)

"How many Americans will die needlessly as a result of this GOP foot-dragging?"

Two points you've obviously overlooked:
1) It's DEMOCRATS holding things up
2) The EMERGENCY! scam won't work a second time

As for Americans dying in the streets, how many are dying out there right now on your block? A better question would be, "How many Americans will die when federal bureaucrats decide their life is not work the investment of added health care?"

I apologize. As a Canadian... (Below threshold)

I apologize. As a Canadian, no one should really pay any attention to my rants abount the U.S. Constitution. I really should stick to my hatred of the Inuit and my frequent correspondence with jihadis in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region.

It seems Hyper is realizing... (Below threshold)

It seems Hyper is realizing he bet on a loser horse. STings don't it? ww

If you want to read what Ba... (Below threshold)

If you want to read what Barry has planned for health care, aka ObamaCare, read what his medical advisor has to say:


That's right, all those things Barry says will reduce cost are mere 'lipstick' according to the good doctor. The good doctor then goes on to explain how government can really reduce costs. The last time I saw those sentiments expressed was in Hitler's "Triumph of The Will". Beside's being Rahm's brother, what rock did Barry pull this guy from under? And was that rock at Auschwitz or Dachau?

Great quote...... (Below threshold)

Great quote...

The question is - what will... (Below threshold)

The question is - what will get adequate (note - 'adequate' isn't 'perfect' - but it's a hell of a lot better than 'none') health care to the folks who need it.

The problem seems to be that there's 45 million (plus or minus, depending on estimates) who are not covered by insurance. This is a debatable number - but we'll let it stand as a basis for some ensuing calculations.

Now, virtually every state already has a welfare system of some sort, with EFT (Electronic Funds Transfer) cards provided to the recipient. In addition, there are unemployment insurance programs as well as WIC programs, and Medicaid is available to those who need it. (But apparently underutilized...) There are structures in place for payments to people who need them. It's a fair bet that the majority of people who need health care that don't have it are urban residents.

Oddly enough, in cities there are also structures in place to provide low-cost health care. (note - 'low cost' is not 'free')

Many drugstores such as Walgreens and CVS have in-house clinics staffed by a nurse practitioner, as do many WalMarts. These provide services for approximately $60 to $70 - and the associated pharmacies typically have a large selection of generic medications for $4 for a 30-day supply.

What I propose is the following.

For those enrolled in Medicaid, unemployment payments, Welfare, WIC, ADC, or any of a host of aid programs - an additional card should be issued.

It would be an EFT card, preloaded with $1000. The card would be good indefinitely, until the program is cancelled. $1000 wouldn't buy much health care, you say? Think again.

That money would ONLY be able to be spent at appropriate providers - the above-mentioned pharmacies and clinics, or doctors who have agreed to take them.

$1000 would provide for 10 visits at $70 each, (which was what I paid without insurance for a visit for sinus problems and a sore throat) and also 5 prescriptions at $4 a month for 12 months.

This provides for quick care, could be used for health screenings and exams, and also urgent care - and would relieve the load on local emergency rooms which are used all too often as an unpaid doctor's office.

The cost would be affordable, too - coverage of 45 million people (who actually need this - not folks making over $50k/year who refuse to pay for their own insurance for whatever reason) would be approximately $50 billion per year. ($45 billion in actual funding for the cards, $5 billion for administrative overhead to manage it.)

There could actually be considerable savings gained in the second year - all you'd need to do is refill/refresh the cards to the $1000 limit - and it would be rare indeed to find someone who used their entire benefit allotment.

(In the case of families - one card would be issued per adult and child who has been registered with a Social Security number.)

This idea is NOT intended to provide funding for emergency room care, air ambulances, MRIs and the like. If such things are needed, the payment source would roll over to other programs such as Medicaid.

Admittedly there would be a good amount of coordination to do between various agencies and businesses - but this is something that could be implemented relatively quickly for relatively low cost.

There are drawbacks to this plan, however.

1. It's not a massive increase in government control of the health care system.

2. It won't drive up the deficit by trillions of dollars over the next decade.

3. It can actually get health care to the folks who need it quickly.

4. It isn't 'fair' since it doesn't cover everyone, only the people who need it.

5. It would be difficult to abuse. Restricting the health care spending only to authorized health care outlets would save money.

6. It would put money into the hands of greedy capitalist businesses who would seek to expand clinic networks to take advantage of the people using this program. Which would, oddly enough, provide them with the health care they need.

I'm sure there's more drawbacks that will be pointed out - but those will start for now.

$50 billion a year, versus an uncertain amount for a program that isn't particularly clear on what it covers or what it'll cost.

The question is - if health care is so important that something MUST be done, without hesitation, without even READING the damn bill - wouldn't it be better to put something in place to take care of the immediate problems NOW? Then take time to create a bulletproof plan - if such a thing is possible. If it isn't - then this will continue to provide people who need it access to health care.

JL, you lose. "It's not a ... (Below threshold)

JL, you lose. "It's not a massive increase in government control of the health care system." MANDATORY health care effects EVERYONE. Government control of health care CONTROLS everyone. George Orwell would have been so proud.

Barry proclaims he doesn't want to be involved in finance, doesn't want to be involved in making cars. Doesn't want to be involved in energy, doesn't want to be involved in health care. He's already in charge of two. 1/2 way there on one, and working on the 4th. Stay tuned.

It's not about actually pro... (Below threshold)

It's not about actually providing the care - it's about getting control so you MIGHT provide the care.

JLThe programs are... (Below threshold)


The programs aren't just in the cities. FQHC and Rural health clinics provide access through sliding scale all over the place. Basic fees are usually much less than the $60 you mention at (God Forbid) Wal Mart.

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