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Lame duck reparations?

I'll report, you decide:

The U.S. Senate yesterday approved spending $4.6 billion to settle two lawsuits: one by black farmers who alleged racial discrimination by government lenders and the other by 300,000 American Indians who said they had been cheated out of land royalties dating to 1887.

Passage of the measure, by voice vote, unblocks a legislative logjam that has thwarted payouts, negotiated by the Obama administration, of $1.15 billion to the black farmers and $3.4 billion to the American Indians.

"We are one step closer to ensuring that the black farmers and Native Americans in these suits are fully compensated for past failures of judgment by the government," U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, said in a statement after the Senate vote. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, said he hopes to seek a vote after Congress returns from a week-long recess on Nov. 29.

President Barack Obama praised the Senate action and urged the House to move forward with the bill "as they did last year."

And so it continues... the transformation of America as promised... at a time when of course, our coffers are full and repayment is painless...

Who next in line do we repay for our 'evil'?


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The money IS going to be pa... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

The money IS going to be paid sooner or later, the Executive having settled the suits. It can come as a special appropriation or be taken from other funds, but it WILL be paid.

Sure, there are more black "farmers" on the list as having been victims of discrimination than there were black farmers in the whole country at the time, but again, that is not a legislative issue.

Turns out, elections matter. Putting radical socialists in charge of the Executive branch has consequences. And as consequences go, this is among the minor ones.

Have they already settled t... (Below threshold)

Have they already settled the 'Bush tax cuts' thing? And approved a new budget?

I must have missed that.

Re: Indian reparations. I h... (Below threshold)
Kristian Holvoet:

Re: Indian reparations. I have read a bit about that. I think that Reparations is a loaded term for that fact that the Dept of the Interior has collected and mismanaged billions of dollars from the Indian tribes. I don't know that the Obama administration negotiated a good settlement, but the Indians were due something. And not from 200 years ago. The problems in the Dept of the Interior continue to this day.

We need to stop lame duck s... (Below threshold)

We need to stop lame duck situations. There either should be immediate seating of elected officials, or a moratorium on voting on legislation until the newly elected people are in office.

This lame duck crap for 2 months is bullshit. All it does is give the ousted pols 2 months to flip the middle finger at the taxpayer.

Every law passed now till January should be defunded in January.

Until we stop Lame Duck ses... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Until we stop Lame Duck sessions I would rather have them piddle my money away than to pass an amnesty bill and load the voter rolls up with illegal aliens.

Meanwhile they just stoke voter discontent. We need to start primarying more of the Senate leadership.

Particularly ironic stateme... (Below threshold)

Particularly ironic statement by Pelosi when you consider that she (and most of the California caucus) has turned her back on California's farmers in the San Joaquin valley for years now.

I'm with texBob. This is n... (Below threshold)

I'm with texBob. This is not the 1800's. There is no real reason for a Congressional Lame Duck session - other than to allow some to pass "screw you" legislation as they walk out the door.

I strongly oppose so-called... (Below threshold)
James H:

I strongly oppose so-called reparations for slavery. But these cases are a different animal.

In the case of the Native Americans, as was pointed out above, the US government has mismanaged Indian funds for a long time. In the case of the African-Americans we're dealing with allegations of a very specific pattern of discrimination alleged by black farmers.

Again ... these aren't reparations. They're settlements for wrongs alleged to have occurred within our lifetimes, and on an ongoing basis.

The answer is for the tribe... (Below threshold)
LeBron Steinman:

The answer is for the tribes to advertise "Looser Slots".

When Democrats control Cong... (Below threshold)
Ken Hahn:

When Democrats control Congress, there is always enough money to buy votes.

James H: "In the case of th... (Below threshold)

James H: "In the case of the African-Americans we're dealing with allegations of a very specific pattern of discrimination alleged by black farmers."

James, I don't believe anyone questions the validity of reparations being offered to individuals who were the direct victims of racism.

The complaint is that this effort to identify affected black farmers resulted in more black farmers being identified than existed during that time period.

Reparations? Pay 'em off - ... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Reparations? Pay 'em off - net of costs for which they are responsible, of course. Crime, welfare, illegitimacy, illiteracy, programs to help them pull up their sagging shorts, urban battle zones, costs of imprisonment, reasonable reparations for victims of their crimes - say $100 K for each crime, on average.

So let's do a reckoning. But let's make it a full, complete, and fair reckoning.

Drago:I thought th... (Below threshold)
James H:


I thought the blog entry gave a fairly strong impression in that direction:

And so it continues... the transformation of America as promised... at a time when of course, our coffers are full and repayment is painless...

And I take issues with the word "reparations" used in relation to somebody who has experienced actual discrimination. The phrase "monetary damages" is far more accurate, and much less politically charge.

"Whites have the responsibi... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"Whites have the responsibilities of men. They are held accountable for their (real or imagined) actions.

'Minorities' have the responsibilities of boys. In a lot of cases, they are not held accountable for their actions.

At least, that's how our PC society treats the races, by laws, affirmative action rules and customs.

So, how do you guys like being treated as boys?

Do you like being boys?

3. Posted by Les Nessman | November 19, 2010 10:45 AM |"

Yeah, it's a bit of a hobby horse of mine. And believe it or not, It's not just in 'Whites' interest to stop this racist nonsense. Treating minorities as different actually harms minorities.

The stupidity of congress, ... (Below threshold)

The stupidity of congress, paying 10 times as many people as there were farmers. They are making criminals out of every black who accepts the money, but then 90% of the blacks are already criminals. They have never adapted, the democrats won't let them, to any society outside of running through the jungle with a bone in their nose. On this type crap I'm a 100% racist.

I want reparations from the... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

I want reparations from the Indians for tobacco and syphilis. A million should do it. I'm cheap and easy.

What a scam.I don'... (Below threshold)

What a scam.

I don't know the details of this case, but here is what I do know.

In the 1990's there was this guy working for the INS (Remember that agency?) and his name was Potter. He claimed that he was turned down for a Supervisor position because he was black.

Was he? I don't know and it doesn't matter.

He decided to sue the INS for discrimination. The INS, being the wonderful agency that it is, decided to settle out of court to keep from getting a black eye. Yeah, good ole Potter never had to bother to prove he was a victim, instead, the agency decided to settle.

Part of the settlement of the "Potter decision" was to go to all officers in the INS at that time and ask them if they wanted to be a part of the "Potter decision".

About a year later after this happened, the INS opened up management positions only for those officer who signed up. IE: Black Officers.

I don't say African American because one guy where I worked was from Panama and he signed up.

Anyway, they opened up management positions just for these guys. There was no competition. For an upper management spot there was a single applicant and for a first line supervisor position there were 2 applicants.

Gee, I wonder who got the job?

My point is, the INS (IE: Government Agency) didn't even bother to investigate the merits of each of these officers cases. They just said to themselves, "Well, we're a bunch of white racists in this nation so it's probably all true." and handed out cushy jobs to all the people who claimed it.

Which is what leads me to believe that this is just as stupid as that was. You've got a bunch of people working in the government, under all administrations, who don't care about the facts. They already know them and by golly, they are going to set things right!

James H @ #8 said:<bl... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

James H @ #8 said:

In the case of the African-Americans we're dealing with allegations of a very specific pattern of discrimination alleged by black farmers.

There was definitely discrimination against some black farmers who were denied access to certain programs, loan guarantees, and subsidies which similarly situated white applicants were given. I don't think anyone has ever opposed compensating them.

The number of claimants Obama proposes to satisfy exceeds by far the total number of black farmers in the United States as per the Censuses of the times. We aren't paying off those who suffered a loss, as would be appropriate and just; we are paying off a great number of people whose only claim is that they want the money.

Shsssh, or the French will ... (Below threshold)

Shsssh, or the French will demand payment for the destruction of their countrysides by armaments, some of them ours, during world wars one and two.

I think I'm entitled to som... (Below threshold)

I think I'm entitled to something. My ancestors had to withstand brutal winters on the North Dakota prairies without adequate housing. Somehow they survived, without welfare, food stamps, Asthma payments, health care, and all that snow tinted their skin white.

More vote buying. Grease th... (Below threshold)

More vote buying. Grease that pig pigalosi..

In 2008, I couldn't have ma... (Below threshold)
Constitution First:

In 2008, I couldn't have made up a big enough lie to overshadow the reality of this Marxist Jackass.

Upon further meditation, I'... (Below threshold)
Constitution First:

Upon further meditation, I'll strike a deal.

In return, now and forever, ending Perpetual Victimhood, a one-time-payment.

In return, all racial preferences, all "diversity" considerations, all the touchy-feely crap that has for-ever poisoned actual "equality" ends Now Forever. Real equality. Put-up or shut-up.

I'll take that deal and nothing less. Otherwise setting a precedent of endless reparations is nothing less than people of color holding the gun of the Government to everyone else's head for the contents of their purse.

The English language has a name for it; Armed Robbery.

"23. Posted by Constitution... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"23. Posted by Constitution First | November 22, 2010 3:33 PM "

Why would 'they' settle for a one-time-payment when they have been getting reparations for years now, with no sign of the gravy train stopping?

In fact, it's been going on so long that the Free Shit Express is just simply EXPECTED, OR ELSE. The only change on the horizon is asking for yet more outrageous and expensive things, you know, like payments for 10 times more black farmers than there were in the whole country.

It'll keep going until someone forces it to stop.

Posted by Jeff Blogworthy <... (Below threshold)
John Williams:

Posted by Jeff Blogworthy

I want reparations from the Indians for tobacco and syphilis. A million should do it. I'm cheap and easy.

Your ability to so easily take on the role of being a victim for the choices you would of made (smoking, sleeping with syphilitic women, men?) yourself shows a serious lack of self awareness. Or do you just revel in victim-hood. I guess personal responsibility is not all it is cracked up to be it is much easier to blame ones own decisions on the nebulous "they" - Government, minorities, anchor babies, Native Indians etc etc. Only problem is the self identified victim usually is RESPONSIBLE for giving up any power he might actually have by ceding it to the victimizer. If it is all the victimizers fault it is all in their control leaving you with only the one option of whining to the victimizer that he changes his ways which has absolutely no effect since no matter how much you might try you will not change his ability to act according to his personal will. Really no different than the wife who will not leave her abusive husband hoping he will change when all along the power is in her hands to stop the beatings by doing what was in her power all along, leaving.






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