HomePoliticsCollege Dropouts College Dropouts Jay Tea May 29, 2004 Politics 7 Comments I just got into an argument about politics. (Gee, what else is new?) The person I was arguing happened to drop a reference to Al Gore Busy Day In The Mideast Things I was going to say Share this:FacebookTwitterRedditEmailMoreLinkedInPinterestPrintTumblrPocket Related Posts Three Cheers For Double Standards: One Man's View “Obama and his friends preach tolerance, but there is bigotry at their group’s core.” It's Good To Be The Prez About The Author Jay Tea 7 Comments Eric Lindholm May 29, 2004 The reason it hasn’t been proposed is that any reform would require a Constitutional amendment. Then 3/5ths of the states would have to agree to let California and New York decide elections. There no chance whatsoever that the smaller states would give up this political leverage. So, despite all the bluster, it was always a pipe dream to reform the voting and it was dropped. SarahW May 29, 2004 48 out of the 50 States, and DC, award electoral votes on a winner-takes-all basis. But it doesn’t HAVE to be done that way. Nebraska and Maine have at-large electors for some of their electoral votes, and split the remainder among the district winners. People could have been screaming for proportional allocation of electors, but that didn’t materialize, either. StarBanker May 30, 2004 Whoa Boy! Elitist and undemocratic, hardly. To exclude a large minority any voice in the national executive branch of the government would be more undemocratic. The people who reside in sparsely populated States in this country perform a vital service that requires sparse populations. There are no farms and ranches run in the middle of New York City. I suggest you spend a little time reading the Federalist Papers for more insight into the reasoning behind the Electoral College. It did not solely revolve around the concept of “educated gentleman farmers” running the show like Lords. Modern life has given us many more reasons to continue it; without it we would have Coastal campaigns, Coastal elections and Coastal candidates only. Alex May 30, 2004 None of the accusations leveled against either Gore or Bush regarding the 2000 election are true. The real case was which votes should be counted, and the scandal was over invalid absentee ballots, unclear ballot cards, and chads. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in favor of not recounting the votes. So the reform must be in voting methods, not the electoral college. Reforming the electoral college will still leave us with hanging chads and Supreme Court decisions. It’s a shame that some people have to be resistant to computerized voting. It would be much more reliable — programming could allow you to confirm your vote before continuing, making it clear for whom you’ve just voted. The vote would then be valid and not be judged by how well a hole was punched or how good the voter’s eyesight was. That vote would be counted and sorted automatically within seconds, as opposed to being read by a committee that has to decide. Computers can work 24/7 and do not suffer from fatigue. Good thoughts, Kevin, but I think you’re blaming the wrong process. Alex May 30, 2004 …er…Jay. Sorry. [memo to self: don’t read blogs at 4 A.M.] McGehee May 30, 2004 Jay’s not blaming the electoral college — he’s responding to what should be the logical conclusion of the “Gore got more votes so he should have won” complaint from the Left. SarahW’s point about the winner-take-all system is well taken, and obviously doesn’t require a national constitutional amendment. The thing about computerized voting is the question of a paper trail. Here in Georgia there isn’t one. In other states legislators are acting to require one. From what I’ve seen — here with an ascendant GOP and a Dem secretary of state — there doesn’t seem to have been any problem so far, but it’s almost certain there will be a ruckus raised at some point, especially if Republicans complete their takeover of the legislature. The McKinney fringe will undoubtedly start spreading conspiracy theories. In fact, the fringe Lefties on the Internet have already elevated Diebold, which makes electronic voting systems, to the level of Halliburton in their corporate demonicon. quasimod May 30, 2004 If it weren’t for the Electoral College, American politics would be completely dominated by the Hollywood elite. Just think about it.