Every big news story gives us a few Democratic Underground chuckles… In random order.
Since we know that the atmosphere has become contaminated by all the atomic testing, space stuff, electronic stuff, earth pollutants, etc., is it logical to wonder if:
Perhaps the “bones” of our earth where this earthquake spawned have also been affected?
You know, we’ve exploded many millions of tons of ordinance upon this poor planet. All that “shock and awe” stuff we’ve just dumped onto the Asian part of this earth [Iraq is in Asia? ed] — could we have fractured something? Perhaps the earth was just reacting to something that man has done to injure it. The earth is organic, you know. It can be hurt. #
IT’S RUMSFELD”S FAULT!!!
And I started to bold part of this one but I couldn’t decide which parts so I’ll bold it all….
All of the injuries done to our planet are interrelated, see this Reuters report linking pollution, tsunami’s, and global warming. Those Right-wing Republican religious nuts with three or four children in an SUV are killing people daily. All of the pollution eventually sinks into the ground, & rots away the “bones” holding our planet together, and causes earthquakes.
They are happening after Xmas, when the pollution from the fever of driving around in SUV’s to buy presents and burning extra energy in Xmas displays for crass commercial (Republican) propaganda is at its worst. See this article about the December 26, 2003 Bam earthquake. The Sumatra earthquake that happened December 26, 2004 is related to the tsunami and must be related to destroying the earth.
None of this would have happened if Al Gore had been elected in 2000, as the USA would have implemented the Kyoto Treaty.
That one might be my favorite.
And then there’s the thread where many DU’ers think Bush should be impeached because he is in Texas.
or this:
Are the Corporations going to steal the Tsunami aid? Ever heard of “Oil for Food?” Didn’t think so.
And you’ll be glad to hear this
THE EARTHQUAKE WAS NOT MANMADE! Here’s why:
Of course the answer is “Why would America disrupt its own CORPORATE investment in those countries who’ve been hit hard?” — Can you say whack job? Sure you can.
Get out the tin foil hats:
Earthquake: Coincidence or a Corporate Oil Tragedy?
Now I dont claim to be an expert on seismic activity, but there has been a series of events which led up to the 9.0 earthquake of the coast of Indonesia which can not be ignored. This all could be an enormous coincidence, but one must look at the information and choose for themselves whether there is anything to it.
On November 28th, one month ago, Reuters reported that during a 3 day span 169 whales and dolphins beached themselves in Tasmania, an island of the southern coast of mainland Australia. The cause for these beachings is not known, but Bob Brown, a senator in the Australian parliament, said “sound bombing” or seismic tests of ocean floors to test for oil and gas had been carried out near the sites of the Tasmanian beachings recently. …
A great deal of interest and seismic testing has been taking place in this area, as the government of Australia has given great tax breaks to encourage the oil exploration.
Still got that tin-foil hat? Good you’ll need it:
A majority of quakes could be manmade
What planet do these people live on:
Dead bodies in natural disasters do not pose a health risk
Or this
No Suprise Here: US Making money off of Tsunami Tragedy Apparently the U.S. charges for passport photos and that is a horrible thing… go figure.
And from the “Not understanding Physics” department,
“Mangroves can act as a shield against tsunami” 150 foot high walls of water moving at over half the speed of sound will bow to the simple mangrove plant. Sheesh!
heh
Melting Ice-Caps Should Create World-Wide Earthquakes
LOL This thread got locked! If you think a 9.0 quake was human-induced, you are a dumbass. Not Surprising.
There are many, many more… Including multiple threads about “lumber being found on Mars”… But my brain is starting to hurt.
Weird. I can’t ping the trackback for this entry. All I get is a long message that ends with the phrase “You are pinging trackbacks too quickly. Please try again later.” It’s through HaloScan, which has never caused me any problems before. Anyone have any ideas?
where exactly do you send out the alert to? Which areas?
Even though there is a lag time as it hits different coasts, there is no time to spare. So, I would warn any and all coastal areas. I have no idea if there are computer models that could predict the direction, but with an earthquake that size and so close to Indonesia, the chances a tsunami would generate was pretty high. As soon as it hit Indonesia, it was apparent that all other areas were at danger and the alert could be heightened – if there was time. If there is no danger, it will be known within hours.
In hindsight, obviously, it’s very easy to tell what should have been done, however at the time the weather in most of the areas hit was calm and beautiful. If warnings had been given, how many folks would have heeded them?
We already had hindsight to teach us. This isn’t the first documented tsunami. I would expect officials to be educated and there to be trained civil defense workers to aid in evacuation. You have your high level officials go on television and radio and issue warnings. There will always be people who will ignore the warnings. But that is no excuse to not issue warnings to the people who will heed them.
Most of the people killed were children from what I’m reading, so it’s safe to say that even if they had heard the warning “tidal wave”, and few if any having experienced such a thing before very likely would have thought it was bogus because of the lack of rising swells or a visible wall of water.
You save who and as many people as you can, even if it is only yourself. As I already said, I’m not even sure if there is high ground to go to in some of these areas. But you try. And remember, there are plenty of lives to be saved after the water has receded.
but it should be a reminder of how small we really are.
Yeah, well it doesn’t, nor should it, stop there. People need to learn what they can do to save themselves and others. It’s the least people can expect from themselves and their own governments.
For the record, I’m the person you want around in emergencies. I’m very good in life and death situations. Any other time, however, I suck. 🙂
Fair enough, well said julie…
Perhaps the earth was just reacting to something that man has done to injure it.
Dude, just imagine what the dinosaurs must have done to deserve the Rockies. They must have elected a Republican by at least 60% !!
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Gee. I ain’t as well versed as y’all, but seems to me they’s a purty good reeson us hicks from the Red States jest don’t quite git it. Ya see, when yur raysed on mtv an such, an listen to them commie tv newsfolks, an beleve ever madeup wurd rooters prints, yur bownd to have a screwedup vishun of the gaya, er erth or what y’all said afore. Axially, cause I read ma Bible, this here round thang we’re all sittin’ on, I call it erth, has bin deestroyed more ‘n oncet. An I hate, all to beejeebus, to tell them bat fellers y’all talk about, the poles ain’t always bin ice cause the stuff under the ice was growed there bfor. So I hate to beejeebus to talk all hi an mity to sech edukated folks at du (is that dezershun unit?) but I thank yur filoso, filopos, oh pshaw, yur idee is plum rong.
I visit DU pretty regularly for comic relief. I simply can’t believe that many of those people are serious. They’re mostly trolls, right? RIGHT???
Julie and Drew. Since I live in Hawaii I can give some perspective of how we handle Tsunami warnings. In reality, you can’t track a tsunami. They travel too fast, and too deep to be able to actually follow. They can be caused by earthqueakes, or landslides in the ocean. Whenever there is an earthquake around the pacific oceam facing us, we get a tsunami warning. Luckily we have some time to get ready (usually a few hours as we are in the middle of the ocean). Schools near water are canceled and others are set up as shelters. It inconviences the islands for a day. Every tsunami warnign ive been thorugh here has resulted in 4-8 inch tsunamis. But stories of ealrier tsunamis happening, along with pictures, and knowledge of what happens when you mess with mother nature, saves lives. A simple light post with a siren on it, and radio warnings could have saved thousands. But like everyone says, hindsight is 20/20. Now, all we can do is send help, money, and pray (OMG he said pray)
So, if the lefties are correct and they know that man-made
conditions are the cause, shouldn’t their logical conclusion be
to Abandon ALL Blue States Immediately!
Given what they know, anything less would be irresponsible, no?
🙂
I’d say this post was designed to distract from the neo-fascists who wrote to USA Today. There’s really no comparison is there?
http://americablog.blogspot.com/archives/2004_12_01_americablog_archive.html#110435633377891345
Peter Kessler: “And as for the good war, WW II, the lefties were four-square for that one. Yes sir, they were saving the USSR, Stalin and Communism. It’s sad we didn’t join Hitler until he wiped out the USSR. Alger Hiss and the Uptown Daily Worker (The New York Times) be damned. I see you’ve joined the club. Well, you’re probably a founding member.”
Joe McBride, Fort Dodge, Iowa: “Mr. Neuharth, thanks to you and your ignorance the terrorists are probably booking their flights to the U.S. now! If we pull out of Iraq with the job unfinished the terrorists will be bombing McDonalds, and blowing up malls and schools here, killing our innocent men, women and children.”
Craig Wood, Waianae, Hawaii: “Today’s press undermines our troops and supports our enemies. They convince parents that supporting your President is dangerous. They concentrate their ire on any fight that involves the United States and ignore all others. Like the sex scandal in the Congo with United Nations forces…. But, let some Army private put panties on an Iraqi’s head and all hell brakes loose….I hope that the people of the United States will ignore or, at least, recognize the agenda of those that choose our enemies over our fine military.”
Duggan Flanakin, Austin, Texas: “Neuharth should be tried for treason along with a lot of other blowhards who should be spending their energies condemning the barbarism of our enemies, the same people who destroyed the Twin Towers. Evidence is pouring in that Saddam financed Al Qaeda with Oil for Food money, and that puts Kofe Annan into the line of fire as well for blame for September 11th. “
Boots Harvey, Brentwood, CA: “One must recall that Churchill had to put up with the likes of Lord Haw-Haw, William Joyce, and his propaganda during WWII. In the end William Joyce was executed for giving aid and comfort to the enemy during war time. Would that the same fate befall Al Neuharth!”
Mel Gibbs: “The Patriot Act will put both of you (Al Neuharth and Greg Mitchell) on trial for treason and convict and execute both of you as traitors for running these stories in a time of war and it should be done on TV for other communist traitors like you two to know we mean business. This is war and you should be put in prison NOW for talking like this. Who the hell do you people think you are? You give aid and comfort to our enemies and aid them in murdering our proud soldiers. You people are a disgrace to America. Your families should be put in prison with you, then be made to leave and move to the Middle East …You two guys are evil bastards…This is a great Christian nation and god wants us to lead the world out of darkness with great leaders like President George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Communists like Al and Greg will soon be in prison and on death row for your ugly papers. We won the election and now you are mad. We own America and all the rights, you people are trash, go back to Russia and Africa and take your friends with before we put you on death row after a fair trial.”
Ah, red state voters. Somehow calling them fascists doesn’t sound so extreme anymore.
I’d say this post was designed to distract from the neo-fascists who wrote to USA Today. There’s really no comparison is there?
Correct, there really is no comparison. What kind of nut would think there is a need to distract from month old letters to the editor in a newspaper most people here don’t read? That nut would be you, of course!
p.s. Is your post meant to distract us from the fact that you promised us you were leaving for-evah?
I couldn’t possibly leave now. My hits are way up!
As proof that Mangroove trees will not stop Tsunamis.
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/hazard/slideset/42/42_842_slide.shtml
Hits solely due to people wanting to know “who is that a-hole, Blogesota?” is nothing to crow about.
It is a dumb idea to have a warning system which gives you 20 minutes notice for something that happens only every 300 years. And then you have all the false alarms, so the warnings become total noise and always ignored.
The DUmmies love even derisional mentions of them in the MSM, thinking it will bring them more visitors. What they don’t get is that these “visitors” are something akin to motorists slowing down to gawk at a car wreck.
Blogasoter…so, in your mind, some angry right-wingers balance the obviously unbalanced Gaia’s-bones-worshipping nutjobs?
Mr. Neuharth’s treachery is a topic lending to reasonable debate. The “Gaia’s Bones Theory” lends itself to psychiatric incarceration.
Take this test. You’re about to get on a plane. You have the choice of flying with a pilot who thinks Al Neuharth is a traitor or one who thinks Gaia has SUV-induced arthritis. Which one do you choose?
What if Gaia were just a bitch with PMS and a hard-on for people living in the tropics?
Note to self:
Don’t mess with Pat.
Ooh, the Kyoto Treaty. There we have it, folks. The difference between the survival of the planet and its imminent demise is a piece of paper that the Yurpeens and Asians are busily not implementing.
Behold Leftthink in all its logical glory!
Fun stuff. Apparently you have never wandered over to Free Republic to chat about the Clintons murdering people left and right and Saddam being responsible for the Oklahoma City Bombing.
I’m a libertarian, but I am most definitely an urban, espresso-drinking, sushi-eating minimalist, and I definitely look down on the fat asses in the breadland and their giant cars — (and reserve my libertarian right to) and the biggest conspiracy theory of all: some constructed Mammon Jesus who teaches us to have a moral compass that stops at the American border, and teaches us that the best way to make society better is to tell children that the Earth was created in six days. Now that’s funnier than any tsunami post on DU.
Gee Crystal, I hope all that aid to the tsunami victims doesn’t get lost at sea because the deliverers left their “moral compass” at the border.
For starters, this disaster has demonstrated the need for an early warning system for the Indian Ocean region. Instead of last minute phone calls made to US Embassies in countries that were threatened like Madagascar and Mauritius, a predetermined network of contacts should exist with emergency evacuation plans to do “whatever we can.” There is no doubt it is a disaster that was not planned, and even with perfect foresight and planning, there was not enough time to save every inch of beach, piece of coral, or tragically every man, woman and child. Not even Al Gore would have been able to advert this disaster (though I would still rather see him in a leadership role since I believe he would be better at cooperating with other nations in the relief effort, but again, that is little more than speculation).
Secondly, not all liberals are stupid, irrational, or blame Dubyah for this event. Trust me, if I could blame him for this in a logical manner, I would be the first in line, but most people on both sides of the political spectrum are smart enough to see this disaster for what it is, a natural event in earth’s history that was devastating for human life on the coast of the Indian Ocean. Remember that. Not all conservatives are close-minded, fat, old white guys that drive SUVs…and not all liberals are Gaia worshipping, green tea drinking vegetarians that participate in seances and can’t spell. There are smart educated people on both sides. Let’s be realistic here. Disaster strikes. We need to find solutions to help the victims and prevent something like this from catching the world unaware next time.
Thank you for telling me where to find all these brilliant and thought-provoking comments and article links on how man’s activity on the planet might actually be adding to natural processes to cause or worsen environmental disasters.
I’ll be adding it to my UFO conspiracy theories and all my David Icke and Jim Marrs books!
(You right-wing idiots!!)
I love the “Gaia’s bones” theory! It’s very poetic! All right-wing nutjobs on here must be totally without poetry not at least to perceive the strength of the metaphor.
Tolkien would have liked it, I think. (Catholic or not; the number of really strong female archetypes in his fiction, especially the goddess-like High Elves, outnumber the males!)
Well that describes modern American right-wing nutjobs for ya: either a) boring born-again whitebread Christians, who are so unpoetic as to promote Creationism literally
b) equally boring, usually urban, libertarians, who think they are more educated and “scientific” than the Christian fundie kind, and therefore “feel free to look down on them”, as one poster here has said – while supporting their policies!
Such a coalition of the literal-minded and the moronic of both “religious” and “materialist” types can never stand indefinitely.