New Hampshire’s current least favorite visitor, Jorge Mora Ramirez, an illegal alien from Mexico who was arrested for trespassing in New Ipswich, is back in the news today. This time, though, he’s letting his lawyer do his talking.
Ramirez’ mouthpiece, attorney Mona Movafaghi, is talking. And if I had any doubts as to her agenda, they’ve been dispelled.
Oh, where shall I begin? It’s a cornucopia of scummery.
“If (Chamberlain) feels like this is his mission in life, he should join ICE,” she said, referring to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the federal agency charged with enforcing immigration law.
Chamberlain is the chief who charged Ramirez with criminal trespassing. Apparently Ms. Movafaghi objects to a police chief enforcing all the laws — she’d rather he selectively choose which to enforce in his jurisdiction. And if other law enforcement agents fail in their duties, Chamberlain should simply shrug and let it slide.
Immigration authorities are “told to target criminals, terrorists and people who are causing trouble,” the attorney said.
Excuse me? What part of “illegal” don’t you understand in the phrase “illegal alien,” ma’am? He entered into this country illegally, so he’s by definition a criminal.
“The police chief is saying a person who is traveling on public roads has no right to do so if they are in the U.S. illegally . . .,” she said. “If you are from Milford, can you be on the roads in New Ipswich?” Movafaghi said. “Where does it end? The immigration laws make the determination on who’s here illegally, not the police chief,” she said.
Here’s a hint, Ms. Movafaghi. If you are in the U.S. illegally, you are liable to be arrested and deported anywhere, at any time. There is no “goal” you can run to and tag. You can’t call “sanctuary” wherever you like.
And it ends at ILLEGAL ALIENS. If you are from Milford, you are most likely a legal resident of the United States and therefore not trespassing within the United States. If you are an illegal alien, you simply have NO RIGHT to remain here.
But don’t worry. Ms. Movafaghi knows MUCH more about this than any of us. Just listen to her:
“I think people don’t understand the state of immigration in New Hampshire . . . both illegal and legal. If there is an issue in a small state like New Hampshire, you can imagine the problems in New York and Florida,” she said.
…and just how will keeping your client here in the country illegally help this situation, Ms. Movafaghi? I guess I’m not “educated” on the matter enough to grasp the nuances.
And what Movafaghi chooses to not address is just as telling as what she does say.
Movafaghi declined to comment on whether she is being paid by the Mexican Consulate, Ramirez or working pro bono. The Mexican Consulate in Boston did not return calls for comment.
I’ll repeat what I said before: if the Mexican government is arguing (through Ms. Movafaghi) that its residents have a legal right to enter the United States at will, and are not bound to respect the immigration laws of the United States, then they are violating the sovereignty of the United States. And that is an act of war.
I’m not calling for us to declare war on Mexico (yet), but if reminding Mexico of the ramifications of their actions is what it takes to get them to stop this invasion, so be it.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050513-122032-5055r.htm
That story contains the perfect example of who is to blame for the problem.
Hating criminal, illegal immigrants does not equate to hating all Mexicans!! Jesus Christ Ryan and mantis, get a grip. Just because we don’t subscribe to your beliefs doesn’t make everyone here racist. Get a grip.
Hating criminal, illegal immigrants does not equate to hating all Mexicans!!
I realize that, and I never said anything about racism. And I was talking about hating criminal, illegal immigrants. I think illegal immigration is a problem, but at the same time I have sympathy for people who risk their lives to get out of a shitty situation just so they can work. I also have sympathy for blue collar Americans who are stuck now with a steady decline in available manufacturing jobs, forced to accept crappy jobs with lower pay, if any. If I tell you to have some sympathy for them am I calling you a racist?
S:
Blaming Americans for “employing illegal immigrants” is proving to be losing it’s luster as a process to try to excuse illegal behaviors…
Uh…that makes no sense. Americans hire the people…we’re the ones that encourage the whole thing. Why do you think they’re here? Who do you think hires them? It’s not a matter of “blaming”, its a matter of whats happening. Look, you have to be realistic and realize that Americans are a big part of the equation here.
…such that now you and some others want us to just accept it and allow it to continue (start appreciating the benefits of illegal immigration, as you suggest).
No. First, I think more people need to realize what’s happening. The rationale here is that it’s just illegal workers faults’, that they are just flooding over here by chance. I dont understand why so many of you get all pissed off when I say that part of the blame lies here. The motivation is provided here, by Americans, who hire tons of illegal workers. If the illegal workers weren’t getting jobs, they wouldnt be coming here to the same degree.
You yourself listed all those businesses that hire these workers. So you know it happens, and alot. I’m not saying that illegal behavior needs to be dismissed, I’m saying that the current system clearly isnt working very well, and that maybe there are other ways to go about this.
I honestly think that your boycott suggestion would be one effective way of consumers really voicing their opinions about the matter. Put your money where your mouth is, as they say. It would be one way to go about it. But how many Americans are going to boycott all those places you listed??? Not many, IMO. And what does that tell us?
You keep reading me as being some sort of apologist for this. I’m not. I’m telling you that there is more to it than just blaming the immigrants. Hell, as has already been stated, if I was in the same position, making 10 dollars a day down in Mexico, I would probably take the risk for the chance to make that same amount per hour. Also, when I talk about the Americans who hire them, I’m not trying to deflect blame. Illegals break the laws, and they know it. But thats because the benefits they receive really pay off. Americans are part of the process, since they hire them.
I don’t think this is some ideal situation by any means, but lets stop with the fairy tale version that puts all the blame on someone else. Our Border Patrol just isn’t very effective. Along with that, Americans are hiring these workers all the time when they get here.
If you cross the borders illegally and continue to remain here, illegally, reaping the many benefits of life in the U.S. but by illegal means, you’re cheating and stealing.
Ok. Let’s say that a sign on some land says “No Tresspassing”. You read and and understand it. But there is someone on that land waving you over, and telling you that they want you to work for them. They offer to pay you 10 times what you usually make. Even more, they are partial owners of that land. Can anyone say mixed signals? To me, there are a couple different messages being sent by Americans. It’s not as clear cut as you make it, sorry.
And please spare me of telling me what is LEGAL and what is ILLEGAL. I know full well what the legalities are here. Laws are nice, but as you might have noticed, arent infallible, and don’t always deal with every situation in the best manner. If they did, we wouldn’t be talking about this. It’s fine to bitch about what the laws are, but when they arent doing anything to solve a problem maybe it’s time to look at why.
Not a good indication of a character that makes for a good citizen.
Right. Coming to a new land and working your ass off for a better life is so anti-American. I mean, we’ve never heard that story before.
Illegal immigration is the height of disrespect for the country and I see nothing honorable or even moderately respectable about illegal immigration. It has nothing to do with anyone’s “race” and/or ethnicity, but is an issue of behavior.
Fine. But why can’t you accept the fact that there are multiple sides? Why keep focusing only on the illegal workers? Change starts at home. Maybe you should talk to all the Americans who hire these workers, and tell them what you think about the matter. And talk to INS people, and ask them why so many illegal workers are here. It’s not just because illegal workers like to break US laws.
Mike:
Hating criminal, illegal immigrants does not equate to hating all Mexicans!! Jesus Christ Ryan and mantis, get a grip. Just because we don’t subscribe to your beliefs doesn’t make everyone here racist. Get a grip.
When you say that you hate “criminal, illegal immigrants” you are including people that I know. People that I have known well, who worked their goddamn asses off over here. I don’t think that you would hate them if you knew them, and heard their stories, but then that would be treating them as humans. It’s hard to hate some kid who’s 17 and tells you that he just walked 3 days through the desert just to come up here and work all day. For me it is. I personally don’t see how hating them is going to help at all.
If you have read what I’ve wrote on this issue carefully you would see that I am not in favor of illegal immigration. I’m in favor of looking at all the causes, and finding a way to address them, so that the issue can actually be dealt with.
So the main belief of mine that you don’t seem to “subscribe” to is the idea that we should, as mantis already wrote, have some sympathy for these people.